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edhelas
hi everyone, I'm planning to work on a new XEP that could greatly improve the use of Jingle into XMPP clients
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edhelas
it could be called Jingle Messaging or Jingle Call History, the idea would be to allow Jingle XMPP clients to send <messages> to the other party to notify it about events that happened on Jingle. I found 3 use cases: a <message> that said that you missed a call (with a <body> for uncompatible clients), another to say that you had a call of 2:54 min with the other contact and a voicemail (basically a <message> with a specific tag and an audio file attached to it).
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edhelas
That way those messages could be saved on MAM and all the clients could then have the history of all the calls that happened with the other contacts. I could also be notified on Conversations that someone tried to call me and then connect on Movim to make the call again (Conversations has then the role of a "pager").
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MattJ
edhelas, sounds interesting :)
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jonasw
edhelas, I wonder if the "missed call" case can already be covered by archiving Jingle requests?
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jonasw
(those are <message/>s IIRC)
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edhelas
ah maybe
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jonasw
not sure if they contain enough information to discern "call" and "file transfer" and other jingle use cases though
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Link Mauve
edhelas, you mean https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html
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Link Mauve
Please adopt it instead of writing a new one.
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edhelas
no this is not what I was talking about
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edhelas
this is about dealing with someone that is online
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edhelas
in my use cases the other party could be gone
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Link Mauve
You will receive it from MAM once you are offline.
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edhelas
I see, it solves some of the cases
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edhelas
great
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edhelas
is there clients that are implementing that ?
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jonasw
is support@404.city a spammer or actually the 404.city person?
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goffi
edhelas: not yet, but I'm planning to implement this one, it's really handy.
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Link Mauve
edhelas, I have it implemented in my Rust library, but there is no working client yet.
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edhelas
ok :)
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moparisthebest
https://sotecware.net/images/dont-puush-me/400A0c9qHGa3fwYfPNT8K9ixOjsuFsLmEIX-WtU5s8A.png > left: XEP-0392, right: HSLuv
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moparisthebest
jonasw: left looks best to me of all 4, the other 3 are a lot darker and look like 1 color per row to me
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moparisthebest
Just FYI I'm a bit colorblind so take it with grain of salt, would like to see real life name coloring again :) (like names from this muc)
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Zash
Name tags! IRL name tags for everyone!
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404.city
Server 404 https://compliance.conversations.im/server/404.city/ has disappeared from the list https://compliance.conversations.im
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lovetox
haha moparisthebest comedy your last sentence :D
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moparisthebest
lovetox: ?
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Zash
moparisthebest: You wanna see the algorithms applied to actual nicknames like the ones in this room?
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moparisthebest
Zash: yes
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moparisthebest
jonasw generated examples using real room names before, they turned out too similar for me