Seve/SouLksenia, if they are fine with Discord, unless you are really good at 'marketing', I'm not sure you will be able to convince someone to switch to XMPP from Discord. If they use the voice channels, the reactions, and so on... Those are features that we don't have currently on a client, sadly.
Ge0rGfippo: the history of XMPP in one short sentence.
jonas’intosi, MattJ, people are still complaining about being unable to reach muc.xmpp.org
jonas’is this known?
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MattJDepending on how you interpret it, you could say even the unsubscribed shouldn't be sent in that case
Kev" 2. If the contact has a presence subscription to the user, then the
user's server MUST send a presence stanza of type "unsubscribed"
to the contact (in order to cancel the contact's subscription to
KevI don't think I can interpret that as the unsubscribed being optional.
MattJPoint 1 - "If the user's bare JID is not yet in the contact's roster [...] the contact's server SHOULD NOT route or deliver the presence stanza of type "unsubscribed" to the user"