XSF Discussion - 2018-11-12

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg110153.html -- I just could not resist to respond to "zoom is great" with "it uses xmpp, ya know" :-)

What's Zoom?

zash: you live in sweden. travel to san francisco, there are buses there with ads that will tell you

fippo, just finished (yet another) Zoom call. Had no idea it used XMPP...

Now I don't feel bad that it does actually work pretty well

My guess was that this is partly because they're not at the mercy of third-party (browser) WebRTC implementations

The CEO of Zoom used to be my boss when Jabber Inc. was first acquired by WebEx. I guess he still remembers. ;-)

Zoom's linux client is somewhat disgusting. So especially its sounds on incomming messages.

Ha, looks like it also does Jingle-FT?

rion, нука нука? Про что речь?

Ah, looks like they possibly use gloox

I wonder if they're using my BOSH code :)

karp: да звонилка и болталка. может очень много народу на митинг собирать. 1 на 1 тоже можно.

rion, чем лутше житси?

karp: да ничем.

karp, ну тогда не интересно :)

=)

mattj: i have seen strophe in the web client samples

where did you see gloox?

`strings` on the native executable

but yeah, not being at the mercy seems to be a big issue...

hrm. your binary seems different from mine. Will add to my intel-list, thanks! :-)

fippo, https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/stdin-x1nQz82K == `strings /opt/zoom/zoom | grep -i xmpp`

Nice. urn:xmpp:hashes:1

That reminds me to ask Council to revisit the recommended hash algorithms in XEP-0300. It's been over two years.

:-)

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg110060.html ... wait how long have I had DANE+XMPP deployed?

Which year did I visit IETF?

What problem are they even trying to solve there?

Why are everyone suggesting solutions to problems that are already in RFCs?