XSF Discussion - 2018-11-12

  1. fippo

    https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg110153.html -- I just could not resist to respond to "zoom is great" with "it uses xmpp, ya know" :-)

  2. Zash

    What's Zoom?

  3. fippo

    zash: you live in sweden. travel to san francisco, there are buses there with ads that will tell you

  4. MattJ

    fippo, just finished (yet another) Zoom call. Had no idea it used XMPP...

  5. MattJ

    Now I don't feel bad that it does actually work pretty well

  6. MattJ

    My guess was that this is partly because they're not at the mercy of third-party (browser) WebRTC implementations

  7. peter

    The CEO of Zoom used to be my boss when Jabber Inc. was first acquired by WebEx. I guess he still remembers. ;-)

  8. rion

    Zoom's linux client is somewhat disgusting. So especially its sounds on incomming messages.

  9. MattJ

    Ha, looks like it also does Jingle-FT?

  10. karp

    rion, нука нука? Про что речь?

  11. MattJ

    Ah, looks like they possibly use gloox

  12. MattJ

    I wonder if they're using my BOSH code :)

  13. rion

    karp: да звонилка и болталка. может очень много народу на митинг собирать. 1 на 1 тоже можно.

  14. karp

    rion, чем лутше житси?

  15. rion

    karp: да ничем.

  16. karp

    karp, ну тогда не интересно :)

  17. rion


  18. fippo

    mattj: i have seen strophe in the web client samples

  19. fippo

    where did you see gloox?

  20. MattJ

    `strings` on the native executable

  21. fippo

    but yeah, not being at the mercy seems to be a big issue...

  22. fippo

    hrm. your binary seems different from mine. Will add to my intel-list, thanks! :-)

  23. MattJ

    fippo, https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/stdin-x1nQz82K == `strings /opt/zoom/zoom | grep -i xmpp`

  24. ralphm

    Nice. urn:xmpp:hashes:1

  25. ralphm

    That reminds me to ask Council to revisit the recommended hash algorithms in XEP-0300. It's been over two years.

  26. peter


  27. Zash

    https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg110060.html ... wait how long have I had DANE+XMPP deployed?

  28. Zash

    Which year did I visit IETF?

  29. Zash

    What problem are they even trying to solve there?

  30. Zash

    Why are everyone suggesting solutions to problems that are already in RFCs?