According to my calendar, Board meeting is imminent.
Ge0rG
ralphm: that mail I sent to you and to info@xmpp.org re use of the trademark for JabberSPAM, are there any news on this?
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nyco
hi all
Guus
Ge0rG Is this related to the SJ-client (previously: SafetyJabber) that was discussed a couple of days ago?
Guus
(just curious, I don't have any updates for you)
MattJ
Unrelated
MattJ
And hi :)
Guus
o/
Guus
ralphm, Seve you guys here?
Guus
Given the time of year, we'd best progress without them I think.
Guusswings ralphm's might hamm^?^?^?^?gavel
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MattJ
Wfm. Note that I'm joined by phone, can't access trello
Guus
Roll call: I've seen MattJ and nyco
nyco
yep
MattJ
Or probably can, if it is public
Guus
Agenda: given our low turnout and the season, I'd not mind keeping this one short.
MattJ
+1
Guus
I think it's public, Mattj: https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
nyco
agree
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Guus
Does anyone want to add something to the agenda?
nyco
nope
MattJ
Not I
Guus
and, while we wait for that feedback: would someone be so kind as to step forward and do our minutes?
nyco
sure
Guus
Preferably not a board member, but beggars can't be choosers...
Guus
thanks nyco
Ge0rGisn't sure what the current process for jabber trademark is
Ge0rG
But last time it *also* required a board vote.
Guus
Ge0rG let me circle back to that during AOB
Guus
which I expect will be in a few seconds from now...
Guus
1. Meeting with Peter
Guus
didn't happen - we've exchanged some dates, but communication broke down during the holidays.
MattJ
NP, as long as there is progress
Guus
Which I think also covers the "financials" & "search for ED" agenda items, unless someone wants to add anything.
Guus
MattJ - I'm confident we'll get there, eventually. 🙂
Guus
2. Summit & Fosdem
Guus
A schedule was released for talks in the DevRoom
Guus
not a Board thingy per-se, but it's interesting to see a number of XMPP-related talks on there.
Guus
I don't have anything else to report besides that. Anyone?
nyco
hotel? venue for summit?
nyco
just for info
Guus
venue will be Cisco, hotel undetermined.
Guus
3. GSoC
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We previously agreed to wait until mid-January to see if someone steps forward to act as an org admin.
Guus
I've not heard from anyone so far.
Guus
We might want to renew the call for one, but other than that, I don't think there's much to do there.
nyco
we should re-issue a call for orgadmin?
Guus
I'll follow up on the email I sent earlier.
Guus
woudl that work for youj?
nyco
maybe it has to be done on a regular basis, like weekly?
nyco
yep
Guus
I don't think spamming the members would help.
nyco
oh
Guus
and probably only annoy people
nyco
I see
Guus
k?
MattJ
Wfm
Guus
4. AOB.
Guus
Ge0rG, you had something.
Guus
I've not worked on/with Jabber trademark issues myself. From a quick google, this seems like an appropriate place to start: https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/jabber-trademark/
Guus
knowing you, you've already found that, so it must have issues for you to bring this topic up.
Guus
A bare-bone process is described here: https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/jabber-trademark/license-decision-process.html
Guus
Ge0rG, can you specify your question/remark?
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Guus
While we wait for Ge0rG to alt-tab back, any other AOBs?
nyco
not from me
Guus
to use this as somewhat of a soapbox: To work around complexity of parts of the infrastructure being maintained by individuals, I've created a github organization that holds all code for the IM-observatory.
Guus
I'd like to invite anyone interested in contributing to join us at https://github.com/xmpp-observatory
Guus
note that this is not a XSF activity
Guus
(I'm not sure why, but as some people insist it's not, it's not).
Guus
Ge0rG - going once, going twice...
Guus
5. Date of next
Guus
although I expect most will still be in holidays-mode, let's aim for +1w again
nyco
probabilities are low for me +1W
Guus
ok, thanks for the heads up nyco
Ge0rG
Guus: sorry, I was asking for a trademark permit to use on the JabberSPAM project
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Guus
Ge0rG that being your project?
Ge0rG
https://github.com/JabberSPAM
Ge0rG
Guus: yes
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Guus
And I think you mentioned you did already contact Peter and info@, as instructed on the website?
Ge0rG
Guus: Ralph and info
Guus
I'm not sure how I can speed things up, apart from touching on this when ralphm and me speak to Peter.
Guus
I'll make a note on our board's trello board.
Guus
to make sure we follow up
Ge0rG
Guus: let the board vote it, I suppose, under the condition that Peter approves
Guus
Ge0rG seems sensible
Guus
I've added it to Trello
Guus
Board members, lets review the request, and prepare for a vote next week, if it comes to a vote.
Guus
in the mean time, I'm hoping that either Ralph or Peter will confirm this course of action, or suggest an alternative.
Ge0rG
Last time I did a PR against xmpp.org, but that lead to confusion among Board, and the official process never was changed.
Ge0rG
I'm not even sure anybody is receiving mail for info@
Guus
MattJ, as iteam, could you check if that's the case?
Guus
I fear we're loosing people.
Guus
I'm sorry to prolong this, Ge0rG - i'm hoping for more news next week.
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Guus
see you all next week.
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MattJ
Sorry, lost connection for a bit
nyco
see you, thx all
MattJ
I don't have access to the mail server but I can ping the iteam list
MattJ
I'll also chase (again) what we can do about Seve's mail situation
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Seve
Hey guys, sorry, I had no Internet connection all of a sudden, I'm in a village and could not do much, I apologise
Seve
Was unexpected, could not imagine it happening
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No worries Seve - I would have been amazed if we had a full board anyways, with the holidays and all.
Guus
Thanks MattJ
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Neustradamus
It is possible to reopen tickets because it is not resolved...
https://github.com/xmpp-observatory/xmppoke-frontend/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
https://github.com/xmpp-observatory/xmppoke/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
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Guus
Neustradamus Yes, I'm closing your tickets. Please create pull requests with your desired changes instead.
Guus
I shall continue this policy in an attempt to get you to contribute to the code directly, instead of creating many issues. You are persistent, and have many suggestions. Supplying pull requests will save a lot of time for both of us.
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35c3.de.half-shot
Hello!
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Matthew
waves from matrix (we just turned on the first cut of a proper matrix<->xmpp bridge, thanks to 35c3.de.half-shot's ministrations)
Matthew
using xmpp.js and XEP-0114 fwiw.
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😎
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Matthew
feels a bit like First Contact. (not sure if that makes us the vulcans or zefram cochrane; probably zefram all things considered)
oli
Matthew: is there a room we can join
oli
?
Zash
What's supported?
Matthew
we're just setting up a room/MUC for it
Matthew
and it's very early days; basic MUC & DMs (i think DMs are only initiatable XMPP->Matrix right now)
Matthew
need to hook up presence, profiles, membership list syncing for MUCs etc
Matthew
oh, and it's only matrix->XMPP joinable MUCs or explicitly provisioned ones, rather than freeform XMPP-joining-anywhere-in-Matrix as yet
Matthew
although uhoreg has a prosody module which could evolve into the latter.
Matthew
sets up a room rather than spamming here
MatthewX
(gah, no /me)
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Matthew
right, if anyone's interested, xmpp:matrix-appservice-purple@conf.xmpp.matrix.org is now bridged through to the dev room for the bridge in question
Matthew
which maps to #matrix-appservice-purple:matrix.org on the Matrix side
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what will be my name on the matrix side? nick, full JID or something else?
MatthewX
nick
MatthewX
with a truly ugly mxid which has an escaped jid within it.
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Matthew
to be precise... @_xmpp_xmpp-js_xsf=40muc.xmpp.org=2foli:matrix.org
Matthew
(all these mappings are placeholder though whilst we sort it out)
Zash
Temporary placeholders? Typical thing to be around until the end of time :P
MatthewX
hah, indeed
MatthewX
but i'd expect the MUC-style JID to get replaced with the real JID in future (if it's available)
MatthewX
and we'll definitely replace the @_xmpp_xmpp-js_ with just @_xmpp_
MatthewX
given we really don't need to know what stack it's using
MatthewX
that said, matrix IDs aren't really meant to be publicly visible, so it's not the end of the world that it's fugly.