GuusDoes anyone want to add something to the agenda?
nyconope
MattJNot I
Guusand, while we wait for that feedback: would someone be so kind as to step forward and do our minutes?
nycosure
GuusPreferably not a board member, but beggars can't be choosers...
Guusthanks nyco
Ge0rGisn't sure what the current process for jabber trademark is
Ge0rGBut last time it *also* required a board vote.
GuusGe0rG let me circle back to that during AOB
Guuswhich I expect will be in a few seconds from now...
Guus1. Meeting with Peter
Guusdidn't happen - we've exchanged some dates, but communication broke down during the holidays.
MattJNP, as long as there is progress
GuusWhich I think also covers the "financials" & "search for ED" agenda items, unless someone wants to add anything.
GuusMattJ - I'm confident we'll get there, eventually. 🙂
Guus2. Summit & Fosdem
GuusA schedule was released for talks in the DevRoom
Guusnot a Board thingy per-se, but it's interesting to see a number of XMPP-related talks on there.
GuusI don't have anything else to report besides that. Anyone?
nycohotel? venue for summit?
nycojust for info
Guusvenue will be Cisco, hotel undetermined.
Guus3. GSoC
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GuusWe previously agreed to wait until mid-January to see if someone steps forward to act as an org admin.
GuusI've not heard from anyone so far.
GuusWe might want to renew the call for one, but other than that, I don't think there's much to do there.
nycowe should re-issue a call for orgadmin?
GuusI'll follow up on the email I sent earlier.
Guuswoudl that work for youj?
nycomaybe it has to be done on a regular basis, like weekly?
nycoyep
GuusI don't think spamming the members would help.
nycooh
Guusand probably only annoy people
nycoI see
Guusk?
MattJWfm
Guus4. AOB.
GuusGe0rG, you had something.
GuusI've not worked on/with Jabber trademark issues myself. From a quick google, this seems like an appropriate place to start: https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/jabber-trademark/
Guusknowing you, you've already found that, so it must have issues for you to bring this topic up.
GuusA bare-bone process is described here: https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/jabber-trademark/license-decision-process.html
GuusGe0rG, can you specify your question/remark?
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GuusWhile we wait for Ge0rG to alt-tab back, any other AOBs?
nyconot from me
Guusto use this as somewhat of a soapbox: To work around complexity of parts of the infrastructure being maintained by individuals, I've created a github organization that holds all code for the IM-observatory.
GuusI'd like to invite anyone interested in contributing to join us at https://github.com/xmpp-observatory
Guusnote that this is not a XSF activity
Guus(I'm not sure why, but as some people insist it's not, it's not).
GuusGe0rG - going once, going twice...
Guus5. Date of next
Guusalthough I expect most will still be in holidays-mode, let's aim for +1w again
nycoprobabilities are low for me +1W
Guusok, thanks for the heads up nyco
Ge0rGGuus: sorry, I was asking for a trademark permit to use on the JabberSPAM project
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GuusGe0rG that being your project?
Ge0rGhttps://github.com/JabberSPAM
Ge0rGGuus: yes
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GuusAnd I think you mentioned you did already contact Peter and info@, as instructed on the website?
Ge0rGGuus: Ralph and info
GuusI'm not sure how I can speed things up, apart from touching on this when ralphm and me speak to Peter.
GuusI'll make a note on our board's trello board.
Guusto make sure we follow up
Ge0rGGuus: let the board vote it, I suppose, under the condition that Peter approves
GuusGe0rG seems sensible
GuusI've added it to Trello
GuusBoard members, lets review the request, and prepare for a vote next week, if it comes to a vote.
Guusin the mean time, I'm hoping that either Ralph or Peter will confirm this course of action, or suggest an alternative.
Ge0rGLast time I did a PR against xmpp.org, but that lead to confusion among Board, and the official process never was changed.
Ge0rGI'm not even sure anybody is receiving mail for info@
GuusMattJ, as iteam, could you check if that's the case?
GuusI fear we're loosing people.
GuusI'm sorry to prolong this, Ge0rG - i'm hoping for more news next week.
Guusbangs gavel
Guushears gavel echo in empty room
Guussee you all next week.
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MattJSorry, lost connection for a bit
nycosee you, thx all
MattJI don't have access to the mail server but I can ping the iteam list
MattJI'll also chase (again) what we can do about Seve's mail situation
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SeveHey guys, sorry, I had no Internet connection all of a sudden, I'm in a village and could not do much, I apologise
SeveWas unexpected, could not imagine it happening
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GuusNo worries Seve - I would have been amazed if we had a full board anyways, with the holidays and all.
GuusThanks MattJ
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NeustradamusIt is possible to reopen tickets because it is not resolved...
https://github.com/xmpp-observatory/xmppoke-frontend/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
https://github.com/xmpp-observatory/xmppoke/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
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GuusNeustradamus Yes, I'm closing your tickets. Please create pull requests with your desired changes instead.
GuusI shall continue this policy in an attempt to get you to contribute to the code directly, instead of creating many issues. You are persistent, and have many suggestions. Supplying pull requests will save a lot of time for both of us.
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35c3.de.half-shotHello!
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Matthewwaves from matrix (we just turned on the first cut of a proper matrix<->xmpp bridge, thanks to 35c3.de.half-shot's ministrations)
Matthewusing xmpp.js and XEP-0114 fwiw.
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Matthewfeels a bit like First Contact. (not sure if that makes us the vulcans or zefram cochrane; probably zefram all things considered)
oliMatthew: is there a room we can join
oli?
ZashWhat's supported?
Matthewwe're just setting up a room/MUC for it
Matthewand it's very early days; basic MUC & DMs (i think DMs are only initiatable XMPP->Matrix right now)
Matthewneed to hook up presence, profiles, membership list syncing for MUCs etc
Matthewoh, and it's only matrix->XMPP joinable MUCs or explicitly provisioned ones, rather than freeform XMPP-joining-anywhere-in-Matrix as yet
Matthewalthough uhoreg has a prosody module which could evolve into the latter.
Matthewsets up a room rather than spamming here
MatthewX(gah, no /me)
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Matthewright, if anyone's interested, xmpp:matrix-appservice-purple@conf.xmpp.matrix.org is now bridged through to the dev room for the bridge in question
Matthewwhich maps to #matrix-appservice-purple:matrix.org on the Matrix side
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oliwhat will be my name on the matrix side? nick, full JID or something else?
MatthewXnick
MatthewXwith a truly ugly mxid which has an escaped jid within it.
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Matthewto be precise... @_xmpp_xmpp-js_xsf=40muc.xmpp.org=2foli:matrix.org
Matthew(all these mappings are placeholder though whilst we sort it out)
ZashTemporary placeholders? Typical thing to be around until the end of time :P
MatthewXhah, indeed
MatthewXbut i'd expect the MUC-style JID to get replaced with the real JID in future (if it's available)
MatthewXand we'll definitely replace the @_xmpp_xmpp-js_ with just @_xmpp_
MatthewXgiven we really don't need to know what stack it's using
MatthewXthat said, matrix IDs aren't really meant to be publicly visible, so it's not the end of the world that it's fugly.
XSF Discussion - 2018-12-27