XSF Discussion - 2019-01-04

By the way, maybe it would be a good idea to add CORS header to XEP-0156: Discovering Alternative XMPP Connection Methods 3. HTTP Lookup Method. `/.well-known/host-meta` (&.json) cannot be discovered by Web Clients without it (this is similar to CORS for HTTP Upload).

Wiktor: could you post that to the standards ML please?

Wiktor: this needs to be made a PR against the XEP text, then approved by Council

yep, no problem

I've never done any work on XEPs or so. How would one go about extending the OMEMO spec to include OpenPGP signatures for OMEMO keys in the PEP nodes?

That sounds like something that ought to be a new XEP

I also don't know to what level of detail interactions should be detailed or so.

The minimum you need to cover is whatever the protocol looks like. The data structures, etc.

Because in theory the only thing needed would be a format that allows attaching the signatures to the OMEMO node and the rest could be left up to the clients to interpret or handle.

Sure

steven: in general, a developer must be able to create an interoperable implementation by reading the XEP and any documents it references

Dear HN sock puppets, please upvote the "XMPP Newsletter: Today Is Jabber's 20th Anniversary" from https://news.ycombinator.com/newest

Ooh. Happy Anniversary! :)

Original post from Jan 4th 1999: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18824957

upvoted :)

edhelas: we are spamming HN today, "Happy Birthday, XMPP 20th Anniversary of Jabber" on https://news.ycombinator.com/newest

edhelas: is movim.eu melting down under the load of HN frontpage news already? 😁

I hope not :D

there's a spike on nginx requests yes, but CPU/IO/mem are fine

we'll have some nice statistics after 1AM here https://fr.movim.eu/report.html :)

edhelas, does movim expost activitypub?

expose*

edhelas, those GoAccess reports look sexy 😮

yes :)

> edhelas, does movim expost activitypub? edhelas: ^

is ActivityPub communicating with XMPP ? 🤔

from the Movim wiki > When you use Movim, it acts as an intermediary between the user's browser and an XMPP server. […] On the XMPP side Movim connects using pure TCP connections (like any XMPP client).

Actually, it amazes me a lot that XMPP is "only" as old as the Euro. I remember the launch of the euro quite vividly, even though I was only 7. But I might remember 2001 for that event, I think that's when we switched to it in Belgium.

Still, the euro seems "recent" while you hear people say XMPP is "old".

it was 2002

> The euro was introduced to world financial markets as an accounting currency on 1 January 1999, replacing the former European Currency Unit (ECU) at a ratio of 1:1 (US$1.1743). Physical euro coins and banknotes entered into circulation on 1 January 2002, making it the day-to-day operating currency of its original members, and by March 2002 it had completely replaced the former currencies.

hmm, right, so 2002. still "only" 3 years younger then, though

edhelas, hmm, yeah you're right, it's probably the XMPP server that should expose activitypub for pubsub nodes with a plugin instead of movim.

steven: 1999 is correct. euro is 3 days older

oli: just in germany the euro came in 2002

j.r: i used it 1999 in germany already.

Oh OK Then I was wrong

Jeremie is still alive and kicking! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18826383

Sure he is, I have coffee with him every month or so. :-)

He and I were working together every day at Filament, but then I left for Mozilla.

Hey peter!

peter: you seem to be MIA rather often as well, but maybe that's just my impression

Ge0rG: Yeah, I've been super-busy at work and will be even busier in 2019.

peter: I know that feeling

I don't have an IM client on my work computer, either, so I need to consciously start it up on one of my personal machines, which I don't look at very often because I'm on videochats most of the day. :-/

Ge0rG: we used to have some of the old CVS/SVN logs on one of the machines but we might have lost those - I will poke around a bit and ask Jer the next time I see him.

peter: I'm just curious for archeological reasons

Yeah, agreed!