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Wiktor
By the way, maybe it would be a good idea to add CORS header to XEP-0156: Discovering Alternative XMPP Connection Methods 3. HTTP Lookup Method. `/.well-known/host-meta` (&.json) cannot be discovered by Web Clients without it (this is similar to CORS for HTTP Upload).
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Ge0rG
Wiktor: could you post that to the standards ML please?
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Ge0rG
Wiktor: this needs to be made a PR against the XEP text, then approved by Council
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Wiktor
yep, no problem
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steven
I've never done any work on XEPs or so. How would one go about extending the OMEMO spec to include OpenPGP signatures for OMEMO keys in the PEP nodes?
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MattJ
That sounds like something that ought to be a new XEP
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steven
I also don't know to what level of detail interactions should be detailed or so.
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MattJ
The minimum you need to cover is whatever the protocol looks like. The data structures, etc.
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steven
Because in theory the only thing needed would be a format that allows attaching the signatures to the OMEMO node and the rest could be left up to the clients to interpret or handle.
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MattJ
Sure
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jonas’
steven: in general, a developer must be able to create an interoperable implementation by reading the XEP and any documents it references
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Ge0rG
Dear HN sock puppets, please upvote the "XMPP Newsletter: Today Is Jabber's 20th Anniversary" from https://news.ycombinator.com/newest
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uhoreg
Ooh. Happy Anniversary! :)
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Ge0rG
Original post from Jan 4th 1999: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18824957
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edhelas
upvoted :)
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Ge0rG
edhelas: we are spamming HN today, "Happy Birthday, XMPP 20th Anniversary of Jabber" on https://news.ycombinator.com/newest
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Ge0rG
edhelas: is movim.eu melting down under the load of HN frontpage news already? 😁
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edhelas
I hope not :D
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edhelas
there's a spike on nginx requests yes, but CPU/IO/mem are fine
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edhelas
we'll have some nice statistics after 1AM here https://fr.movim.eu/report.html :)
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steven
edhelas, does movim expost activitypub?
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steven
expose*
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steven
edhelas, those GoAccess reports look sexy 😮
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edhelas
yes :)
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steven
> edhelas, does movim expost activitypub? edhelas: ^
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edhelas
is ActivityPub communicating with XMPP ? 🤔
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edhelas
from the Movim wiki > When you use Movim, it acts as an intermediary between the user's browser and an XMPP server. […] On the XMPP side Movim connects using pure TCP connections (like any XMPP client).
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steven
Actually, it amazes me a lot that XMPP is "only" as old as the Euro. I remember the launch of the euro quite vividly, even though I was only 7. But I might remember 2001 for that event, I think that's when we switched to it in Belgium.
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steven
Still, the euro seems "recent" while you hear people say XMPP is "old".
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oli
it was 2002
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steven
> The euro was introduced to world financial markets as an accounting currency on 1 January 1999, replacing the former European Currency Unit (ECU) at a ratio of 1:1 (US$1.1743). Physical euro coins and banknotes entered into circulation on 1 January 2002, making it the day-to-day operating currency of its original members, and by March 2002 it had completely replaced the former currencies.
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steven
hmm, right, so 2002. still "only" 3 years younger then, though
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steven
edhelas, hmm, yeah you're right, it's probably the XMPP server that should expose activitypub for pubsub nodes with a plugin instead of movim.
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oli
steven: 1999 is correct. euro is 3 days older
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j.r
oli: just in germany the euro came in 2002
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oli
j.r: i used it 1999 in germany already.
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j.r
Oh OK Then I was wrong
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Ge0rG
Jeremie is still alive and kicking! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18826383
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peter
Sure he is, I have coffee with him every month or so. :-)
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peter
He and I were working together every day at Filament, but then I left for Mozilla.
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Ge0rG
Hey peter!
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Ge0rG
peter: you seem to be MIA rather often as well, but maybe that's just my impression
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peter
Ge0rG: Yeah, I've been super-busy at work and will be even busier in 2019.
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Ge0rG
peter: I know that feeling
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peter
I don't have an IM client on my work computer, either, so I need to consciously start it up on one of my personal machines, which I don't look at very often because I'm on videochats most of the day. :-/
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peter
Ge0rG: we used to have some of the old CVS/SVN logs on one of the machines but we might have lost those - I will poke around a bit and ask Jer the next time I see him.
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Ge0rG
peter: I'm just curious for archeological reasons
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peter
Yeah, agreed!