XSF Discussion - 2019-01-14

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15:09:01 jonas’ > The legacy [Group Chat 1.0] protocol has not been in active use for more than ten > years, and servers are fading out support for it because its > presence causes issues. I feel like I missed a chance when writing this.
15:09:27 jonas’ > The legacy [Group Chat 1.0] protocol has not been in active use for more than ten > years, and servers are fading out support for it because its > presence causes issues. I feel like I missed a chance when I wrote this.
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15:10:10 MattJ :)
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15:16:48 Andrew Nenakhov Btw does anyone have this [Group Chat 1.0] protocol anywhere? Was searching hard for it and didn't find
15:16:58 jonas’ the original GC 1.0?
15:16:59 Andrew Nenakhov Only mentions of it in XEP 0045
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15:17:11 Andrew Nenakhov jonas’, yes
15:17:12 jonas’ I think somebody tried to find it when the removal of GC 1.0 was discussed
15:17:17 jonas’ but I’m not sure whether it has been found
15:17:34 Andrew Nenakhov Funny. No wonder this protocol fell out of use
15:17:46 Andrew Nenakhov You'll have to do the same to MUC.
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15:19:48 MattJ Well it's not https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/conferencing.html
15:20:33 Andrew Nenakhov MattJ, thanks!
15:21:08 MattJ No, that seems to be an alternative proposal (that became or was replaced by XEP-0045)
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15:22:55 MattJ Ah, it's documented here: https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/protocol.html
15:23:05 MattJ (search for jabber:iq:conference )
15:23:28 MattJ It's... very short
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15:51:33 Ge0rG jonas’ [16:17]: > I think somebody tried to find it when the removal of GC 1.0 was discussed I wanted to get a council vote to remove it last year, but unfortunately all I got was "make a PR and don't dare making _it_ worse", for undefined "it" and "worse".
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15:52:17 Ge0rG And then I started removing the cruft from 0045 and it turned out harder than I thought initially, and then - EBUSY
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