XSF Discussion - 2019-01-15


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  20. neshtaxmpp

    hi

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  108. MattJ

    Hi

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  127. edhelas

    hey

  128. rion

    hola

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  136. Andrew Nenakhov

    Привет

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  143. pep.

    おは

  144. steven

    Ola

  145. jonas’

    hyvää päivää

  146. Guus

    I'm so glad that we've spend blood, sweat and tears in developing this protocol that makes it possible for us to have this high-quality conversation.

  147. Guus

    Is there anyone that is interested in staying at the Thon EU hotel for the summit/FOSDEM, that has not reserved a room yet, has not received any feedback from me, and is not winfried or @mattj? Please speak up now, as both time, as well as room availability, is running out!

  148. Guus

    (also, please join summit@muc.xmpp.org)

  149. pep.

    暇なやつら

  150. Guus

    Also, if you attend the summit, please make sure that your name is listed in https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_23#Summit_Participants (as this is the list that I'll use to arrange for access to the building). Please don't expect me to complete that list from memory!

  151. Guus

    (and again, please join summit@ - this concludes todays cross-posting)

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  187. neshtaxmpp

    Здравеите.

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  214. pep.

    How much effort is it to put a banner or something on the inbox version of a spec when it gets accepted or rejected, to say so (and possibly point to the current version). I assume that's more work for the editors but it'd be great to have an idea of what's happened with stuff in the inbox as they're never removed (right?)

  215. jonas’

    pep., you "just" need to patch the .xsl file in the xeps repo to allow for that

  216. jonas’

    however, it would be nicer to have actual rediercts

  217. pep.

    I wouldn't mind having just a note "hey this is now live at XXX", or "This has been rejected, see <thread>" or something

  218. jonas’

    yeah, would be a good way imo

  219. pep. makes a note in his todo

  220. jonas’

    you need to: - draft a format how to put t hat into the protoxep xml file - modify the dtd to allow it - modify the xsl to use it

  221. pep.

    Or maybe that can be a bug in the tracker

  222. jonas’

    sure

  223. pep.

    Is that just an editorial thing or is it process or?

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  228. pep.

    https://github.com/xsf/xeps/issues/738 here!

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  261. Ge0rG

    Is XMPP using BE or AE English in identifiers? Speaking of `self-ping-optimisation`

  262. pep.

    I heard US not so long ago

  263. jonas’

    Ge0rG, XEPs use AE

  264. jonas’

    that’s written down in some xep

  265. Ge0rG

    so it must be `self-ping-optimization` then?

  266. jonas’

    I guess

  267. MattJ

    Yeah, agreed

  268. Zash

    `sälf-ping-åptimizatjon`

  269. jonas’

    :)

  270. jonas’

    ſelf-pinng-opptimeisaschion

  271. jonas’

    `ſelf-pinng-opptimeisaschion`

  272. Ge0rG

    jonas’: what's that? en-DE?

  273. jonas’

    Ge0rG, just like Zashes en-SV, yes

  274. Zash

    Let's re-write all the specs into Swänglish

  275. Ge0rG

    Engrish please

  276. pep.

    セルフーピングーオプチミぜーション ?

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  279. jonas’

    that’s what we have UTF-8 for

  280. pep.

    セルフ・ピング・オプチミぜーション ?

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  288. Ge0rG

    https://op-co.de/tmp/xep-0410.html - https://github.com/ge0rg/xeps/tree/xep0410 - feedback is welcome.

  289. Ge0rG

    I assume I shouldn't PR that during the LC.

  290. jonas’

    a diff would be good nontheless

  291. Ge0rG

    jonas’: more of a diff than in the github link?

  292. jonas’

    yes, because I have to look at each commit individually

  293. Ge0rG

    If I had the tooling to make a rendered diff, I'd gladly do so.

  294. jonas’

    an XML diff which includes all three commits would be good

  295. jonas’

    just do a PR though, you can accumulate all your LC feedbac kthere

  296. Ge0rG

    jonas’: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/compare/master...ge0rg:xep0410?expand=1 maybe?

  297. jonas’

    that look sgood

  298. jonas’

    left a comment on the second commit

  299. Ge0rG

    jonas’: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/739

  300. jonas’

    which github nicely inlined into that pr, amazing

  301. jonas’

    say about github what you will, the tools *are* amazing

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  358. oli

    btw, has xmpp bidi support?

  359. oli

    not xep-0288 the other bidi

  360. pep.

    the other bidi?

  361. oli

    right to left

  362. oli

    and vertical

  363. Zash

    That would be up to the text rendering in each client, would it not?

  364. oli

    yes, but is it encoded?

  365. pep.

    I guess not

  366. oli

    do i need xhtml-im for thatm

  367. oli

    or is it a language code thing?

  368. pep.

    Yeah I was wondering if xhtml-im included such a thing

  369. Zash

    I thought Unicode dealth with that

  370. oli

    yes, looks complicated

  371. Zash

    Language is complicated

  372. Ge0rG

    ‮ What's the problem?

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  374. oli

    no no no

  375. oli

    rebbaj looks good

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  387. oli

    do we need to update xep-0167 with reference to xep-0371 and deprecate xep-0176?

  388. oli

    or is it just me that don't understand that stuff?

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  443. neshtaxmpp

    hi

  444. neshtaxmpp

    my friend has configured sslh, but in apache it comment it come from 127.0.0.1

  445. Zash

    yes

  446. Zash

    that is to be expected

  447. neshtaxmpp

    zash and do you know how it can be condigured to show from what ip it come.

  448. neshtaxmpp

    Zash:

  449. Zash

    I don't think it can

  450. neshtaxmpp

    im gonna ask my friend he follow guide from user from this xmpp.

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  452. neshtaxmpp

    my friend comment he use this guide from here: wiki.mattrude.com/SRV_records_for_XMPP_over_TLS

  453. neshtaxmpp

    @mattrude are you online

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