XSF Discussion - 2019-01-27

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12:01:17 jonas’ Ge0rG, re XEP-0410, is there any error condition defined which is definitely "not joined"?
12:01:26 jonas’ this would be useful at least for services which implement the feature
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12:51:05 Ge0rG jonas’: that's a great point. I think we need to dig something out of 0045
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12:57:34 jonas’ I guess it’ll be unspecified
12:58:00 jonas’ (but often it’ll be <forbidden/>)
12:58:50 jonas’ this MUC seems to send <not-acceptable/>
12:59:20 jonas’ prosody@ does, too
12:59:25 jonas’ so it’s probably <not-acceptable/> mostly
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13:00:04 jonas’ I think I’ve got most of an XEP-0410 implementation finished
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13:05:24 jonas’ Ge0rG, you might have some opinions here: https://github.com/horazont/aioxmpp/pull/276#issuecomment-457916156
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13:07:09 Ge0rG I'm not sure how having multiple pings in flight will help
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13:07:37 jonas’ allows for a larger timeout (i.e. helps with slow connections) while still being responsive when the MUC comes back from a blackhole situation
13:12:00 Ge0rG Hmmm...
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14:16:43 Ge0rG jonas’: m-link will respond <not-allowed/>
14:17:16 Ge0rG and openfire with <bad-request/>
14:17:42 jonas’ Ge0rG, good, now we should define a specific thing for this type of pings in '410 for the feature.
14:17:47 jonas’ I don’t care much which
14:18:36 Ge0rG ejabberd will also not-acceptable:
14:18:40 jonas’ although I think that <forbidden/> is most appropriate (<not-allowed/> is definitely *not* appropriate).
14:18:45 Ge0rG but with a human readable error message
14:18:56 Ge0rG fix jabber.org
14:19:18 Ge0rG I'm not sure we are supposed to fix *that*, though
14:19:22 jonas’ not-allowed: > The recipient or server does not allow **any** entity to perform the action (emphasis mine)
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14:19:58 jonas’ but that’s not a big deaa
14:20:00 jonas’ but that’s not a big deal
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18:05:09 Link Mauve “13:39:11 rion> […] I wonder what's gonna happen if I have svg avatar”, I have one, I just don’t set @width and @height since they are optional anyway, and don’t make sense with vector graphics.
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18:56:31 Guus Is there anyone that wants to attend the XSF dinner, but has not filled out the form yet? Make yourself known NOW.
18:57:18 Link Mauve Oh, yes.
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18:58:21 Guus Fill out the form now please
18:58:22 Link Mauve Filling it right now.
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19:01:34 Link Mauve After five recaptcha, done!
19:01:42 Link Mauve Guus, ↑
19:01:49 Guus K
19:02:47 pep. Yeah.. Can we not use google forms next time please. There are other free solutions publicly available, like https://framaforms.org/
19:03:10 pep. I can help with French, or making the form if necessary
19:03:54 pep. Or deploy it in English or something
19:04:15 Zash Oh!
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