XSF Discussion - 2019-02-17

XEP-0234: The <checksum/> element SHOULD contain 'creator' and 'name' attributes sufficient to identitfy the content the checksum belongs to I believe it has to be MUST here. at least for name

just for the case when a session has multiple filetransfers

rion, I’m in the process of fixing a bunch of issues in this XEP, thanks for your input, that is noted!

Link Mauve: and I'm in the process of implementing it. =)

Yay!

It will most likely result in a namespace bump, fyi.

> namespace bump the worst thing a developer can hear :D

Yes. ;_;

But the current version already should have been, and didn’t.

<hash-used/> was a breaking change.

nah, I'm fine, it's a problem for abandonware only

It also is a problem for everyone using a distribution based on providing old obsolete software.

*cough* Debian *cough* CentOS *cough*

CentOS probably, but the situation in Debian has improved

I disagree about Debian, but I also don't want to redo the same "discussion" we have all the time on other channels :) ✏

pick one of: tabs vs spaces, emacs vs vim, debian is/is not terrible outdated

rion, if I may ask: implementing it where?

flow, Psi.

Ahh, what the state of Psi(+)? Which one should I look first at? Psi, which was probably the very first jabber client I ever used, or is Psi+ the way to go (because it is Psi plus X?)?

flow, psi-plus 1.4.554-1 has been uploaded to Debian unstable this night. Unfortunately, the OMEMO plugin doesn't work for me. I have it enabled, but the encryption icon remains disabled. (send from psi-plus, excuse my brevity)

I'll ask the maintainer, whether I'm doing something wrong in respect to OMEMO. Also, I never used psi-plus before.

flow [12:06]: > pick one of: tabs vs spaces, emacs vs vim, debian is/is not terrible outdated Emacs and Debian are subjective matters of taste, don't put them into the same box as tabs vs spaces.

:D

Such a pitty that jabber.el is not actively developed any more

And I still don't know the difference and background between Psi and Psi+, and which one I should give a try

hmm funny the psi version in gentoo (1.4) is newer than the one on psi-im.org

Ahh https://psi-plus.com/wiki/doku.php?id=en:main#about_psi explains a bit

I https://psi-plus.com/wiki/en:patches#vcard_clickable_photo really how vcards look these days in XMPP? I should consider switching from a console only client…

I'm starting having doubts about their target users

lol

flow, FWIW, poezio allegedly has avatar support ✏

jonas’, it has? Nice, looks like I have to read up on this

Not so bad, this jabber.el

debacle.el, but still no carbons support? That was IIRC 2015 the reason I stop using it

Psi+ was mostly merged to Psi. Psi+ wiki is outdated

rion, thanks for info :)

rion: out of curiosity: what was *not* merged?

flow: unstable or incomplete stuff. Or maybe just something with bad design or mostly useless

I hope to release it soon with mam, jingle and omemo

Soon=2+ months

Ah yes also voice messages and stable video calls

Maybe not that soon))

flow, I have no idea about the jabber.el feature set or XEP support, but I'm sure, it's pretty poor

That demands for a Venn diagram of the psi vs psi+ features.

Hi, can someone tell me how to add a link to a XEP for refering to a section inside another XEP? I am looking for something like `&xep1234#section;`.

melvo, try using <link/>: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/blob/master/xep-0374.xml#L139

What if you want to use the entity

&xep1234;#section I guess?

Or maybe not, you need .html or .whatever

OK, thanks.

Reminder that the Q1-2019 application period ends in 7 days: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q1_2019

oh wow, I don’t even recall that I made my re-application already

Thanks for the reminder Alex :)