XSF Discussion - 2019-03-02

Didn't know https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-introduces-social-features-joins-the-fediverse/

Seve, that's a bit sad because they had XMPP before, non-federating though

on the other hand I don't know anyone that thought a XMPP server written in PHP was a good idea

pep.: ENOMATCH

s/a XMPP server written in // ✏

what?

This message brought to you by the anti-PHP strike force.

Team LUA? Or team RIIR?

https://upload.jabberfr.org/myjAhXhbe2WIClsC/wolf%20-%20CvgezXSuQTMTC.mp4

https://upload.jabberfr.org/VO5Nw3U-ozv6d2lw/8pn9kSC3Ruyfxv91pvuQSw.jpg

Oh Conversations

pff conversations spoiling the fun out of it

I thought that was fixed btw, or was it just sending that's been changed?

What’s the issue in this screenshot?

Also, why don’t you see pep.’s avatar?

Speaking of YOLO Message Correction?

Oh.

Link Mauve: because XMPP 😕

hmm, no?

contrapunctus, XMPP works, for both message correction and avatars.

pep., do you use vcard_legacy or just vcard?

On your server.

hmm, it's possible it's me yep, let me see

vcard4 and vcard_legacy

Did you reupload your vcard-temp, or convert it somehow to the new storage?

yeah it's been a while

Ok.

Are your avatar metadata and data nodes set to an open pubsub#access_model?

Link Mauve: you need to draw The Flowchart Of Debugging Avatars.

Ge0rG, even better, I wrote a web application to manage it and much more.

I should figure out how to i18n it and release it.

And also ask designers for guidance.

hmm, where do I see the access-model

I guess it's not "open" indeed.

hmm. What clients set it "open" by default btw?

What servers honor that setting at all?

Recent Conversations

Ge0rG: All that want OMEMO to work

For avatars?

Don't you encrypt your avatar?

Oops sorry

But I set it public, as well as my bundle, so that anybody can decrypt it

(I know that doesn't make sense, sorry)

Do you have all 100 pre avatars still published?

> on the other hand I don't know anyone that thought a XMPP server written in PHP was a good idea well, someone thinks Lua is a good idea to write xmpp servers in 🐽

And erlang inexplicably :)

What did I log into Lua vs Erlang wars?

vs PHP too?

🤔

So what about Go?

(Jackal being written in go)

Can't you just go?

> So what about Go? well, jackal is still unusable, so...

If you want to be the a true adventurer you have to prove it in Coq.

same as dendrite btw, seems like Go is a great language to write incomplete servers 😁

Frama-C XMPP server, let's go!

> If you want to be the a true adventurer you have to prove it in Coq. there is a C compiler proved in Coq, nobody cares.

Does Github still have XMPP integration support?

Zash, nope, only webhooks

But they had something right?

Right

They did ✏

They removed it last october iirc

For all of the protocols, there's only webhooks now

So OVH (french hosting provider) seems to add _jabber._tcp.domain.foo. CNAME _jabber._tcp.redirect.ovh.net. by default to domains. Is that even a thing?

Cisco Jabber maybe?

2001 called, they want their non-standard pseudo-SRV back

zinid, RIIS (Rewrite It In Sed)!

I'm not sure any human being should do that 🤔

RIIR (in R, not Rust)

zinid: Too late, it's already a thing.

Zash, 😮

Didn't you see the sed XMPP echobot?

ah, right, I recall something like that