https://opensourcedesign.net/jobs/ - looks like paid jobs get priority review.
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Dele Olajide
I did some experimenting over the weekend to implement emoji reactions using XEP-0367: Message Attaching with my browser extension XMPP client Pàdé (converse.js on steriods).
My use case was for simple positive and negative reactions using the smiley and frown emojis. See https://github.com/igniterealtime/Pade/issues/139 for more details.
The only issue I have is what to display in the message body for compatibility with clients that don't yet support the XEP. I currently display the emoji, but if the reaction comes much later out of context, it could be mis-understood. I am curious to know how other XMPP clients plan to handle this.
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Ge0rG
Dele Olajide: https://github.com/jabbercat/jabbercat/issues/80
Ge0rG
Dele Olajide: also please use 👍 and 👎 for +1 and -1
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Dele Olajide
>Ge0rG: Dele Olajide: also please use 👍 and 👎 for +1 and -1
thanks 👍
Andrew Nenakhov
Dele Olajide, how do you work with message archives for attaching?
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Dele Olajide
I was extending converse.js ability to edit and correct archived messages
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Andrew Nenakhov
Like, archived on server as in XEP-0313?
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Dele Olajide
Yes, but most importantly, XEP-0359 for unique message Ids
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edhelas
MattJ I'm having a look at 0367, to add the "reactions/emojis" feature in Movim
edhelas
what is the prefered way to "remove" the reaction
edhelas
on Slack you can simply reclick on it, but how could it look like in this case ?
MattJ
I guess the same way you would remove any message in a conversation...
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(no, I don't really have an answer)
edhelas
an message correction with a blank body :p ?
MattJ
Might work :)
MattJ
Also relevant: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/message-retraction.html
edhelas
yeah i though of that one as well
Ge0rG
message re~tr~action
edhelas
badam tsss
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edhelas
MattJ security wise you have to be really careful to check not only the ID but if the ID was published in the related configuration
edhelas
i can get the message id of a message and publish an attached one in a totally different discussion
edhelas
so for simple chat messages, the from of the attach should be part of the to or or from of a related parent
And then you send a message that somehow does hypnosis and makes your brain forget the conversations ever happened
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can't wait for the <nuke id='SD24VCzSYQ' xmlns='urn:xmpp:message-nuking:0'/>
MattJ
But which id will it match on?
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To be on the safe side, match any
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jonas’
all the IDs
jonas’
or all the messages?
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edhelas
everything
edhelas
the admin receive a mail and put the SSD/HDD in the microwave
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*MUST put
Zash
module:hook("nuke", os.execute("wipe /dev/sd*"))
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jonas’
:D
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good thing my servers have vd*
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Ge0rG
With the stalled PR on OSD, I wonder if https://img.shields.io/endpoint.svg?url=https://op-co.de/tmp/cs2019.json is just good enough.
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Zash
That looks pretty good
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the logo contrast isn't good enough.
Ge0rG
and I'd rather have a two-line tag with "XMPP" on its own line.
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Ge0rG
jonas’: I'd love to see https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/773 merged in time for our next Agenda.
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pep.
Was there no LC for 412 already? Is there going to be a LC-round2?
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Ge0rG
pep.: no, there's going to be a Council Vote.
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jonas’
I have the impression that much of this applies to XMPP, too: https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/platforms/tbm
jonas’
(this is an application for the debian project leader role)
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MattJ
I know what you mean. Though it doesn't seem as bad. I feel like we already recognized many issues and are addressing them as best we can
MattJ
I also don't think XMPP is "boring" right now. I think it got that way for a few years, but there is a resurgence of interest and community activity
MattJ
There are still many difficult problems to solve, and that's personally something I enjoy doing
Kev
I think the lack of person power with people being paid to actually concentrate on XSF work is valid, though.
Kev
Although obviously horrendously non-trivial to do anything about.
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Do we need a fundamental change in how we do stuff? I don't think so. But we do need, I think, some people doing more work for the XSF.
Kevvanishes again.
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Volunteer organization problems?
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Guus
Addressable.
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And worthy to be addressed
Zash
I'm under the impression that we don't currently have an active ED. (Re that being about a leader role)
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Guus
You are right.
Guus
Peter stepped down, board decided to not appoint a replacement.
Zash
IIRC partly because it wasn't clear what the responsibilites of that role were, or they could be handled by the board, secretary just fine.
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Guus
Pretty much
Guus
Nothing set in stone though
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Also, appointing an ED isn't the only option we have.
waqas
Is it clear what we even want? And what we want it from (e.g., XSF vs community stuff)?
Guus
aside: I'd prefer to increase the overall productivity by increasing it a little in many people, instead of finding one person to work pretty much full-time.
Guus
waqas: all very debatable. But I suspect that a generic consensus can be found to at least increase productivity.
Zash
Also depends on how active a role the XSF itself should have
waqas
Guus: Productivity in what activity?
Guus
My take: produce and progress standards, promote the XMPP ecosystem.
Guus
I'm on mobile, which causes me to be more terse than desirable for this discussion.
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Seve
> I'm under the impression that we don't currently have an active ED. (Re that being about a leader role)
What would that fix though
Seve
> aside: I'd prefer to increase the overall productivity by increasing it a little in many people, instead of finding one person to work pretty much full-time.
I completely agree on that, that has many benefits