XSF Discussion - 2019-03-26


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    0.0

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  193. Seve

    MattJ, Guus, ralphm, nyco: I feel we should think about if it is important to move some items for discussion around, to give some time to all items. I would not like to focus on one item only and then leave the rest dying there, waiting.

  194. Guus

    Seve go for it

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  199. Seve

    đź‘Ť

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  202. Ge0rG

    Guus: you've got an account on the OSD discord, could you ping them regarding our job listing PR at https://github.com/opensourcedesign/jobs/pull/389

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  208. Guus

    Ge0rG https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/job-posting-timing/980

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  223. Ge0rG

    Guus: đź‘Ť

  224. Ge0rG

    > Hello! Looks like you’re enjoying the discussion, but you haven’t signed up for an account yet. Oh how I hate those fake engagement metrics and their resulting paternalism

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  231. Ge0rG

    Hm. No dwd nor TeddSterr, who can I bother with my agenda submissions?

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  273. Ge0rG

    https://op-co.de/tmp/xmpp-compliance-badges/

  274. pep.

    hmm, I would argue against red. They're still compliant, it's already better than no compliance at all

  275. Zash

    Bronze, Silver, Gold?

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  278. Ge0rG

    Magenta, Lilac, Pink!

  279. jonas’

    octarine

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  281. Zash

    Unobtainium

  282. Ge0rG is currently wearing an "I :heart: Ankh Morpork" t-shirt.

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  284. Ge0rG

    Zash: please!

  285. jonas’

    Ge0rG, I’m reading "Thud!" for the first time

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  287. Ge0rG

    jonas’: are you at home yet? :grin:

  288. jonas’

    yes, I just opened xeps/xeps

  289. jonas’

    yes, I just opened xsf/xeps

  290. Ge0rG

    \o/

  291. Ge0rG

    the whole data set is at https://op-co.de/tmp/xmpp-compliance-badges.tar.bz2 (9KB), and it was generated by shamelessly polling shields.io for their CC0 SVGs

  292. jonas’

    MattJ, https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/771 review pls

  293. Ge0rG

    I wish the SVG generator had a default-zoom property. The 14px default size is blatantly inaccessible

  294. jonas’

    sed can fix that for you

  295. jonas’

    although svg viewbox is an arcane concept

  296. wurstsalat

    would 2020 get green as well as soon as it's released (plus then old 2019 fading to orange)?

  297. Ge0rG

    wurstsalat: not before 2020

  298. Ge0rG

    wurstsalat: and no, this is not automatic.

  299. wurstsalat

    okay but it's planned to use green for the most recent one?

  300. Ge0rG

    wurstsalat: this is just an early prototype

  301. Ge0rG

    or rather a proof-of-concept

  302. wurstsalat

    I know I know :)

  303. Ge0rG

    I've chosen green for a lack of xmpp corprorate branding style guidelines.

  304. jonas’

    I think following the colour scheme typically used for badges is more reasonable here than following any XSF branding

  305. Ge0rG

    can you stop bikeshedding now please.

  306. jonas’

    I need to fill the github web ui loading times

  307. Ge0rG

    https://op-co.de/tmp/tags.sh https://op-co.de/tmp/tags.txt

  308. Ge0rG

    My work here is done.

  309. Ge0rG

    Don't hammer badges.io too hard please.

  310. jonas’

    don’t they normally like to be embedded in github readmes and such?

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  313. Ge0rG

    somebody please write a JavaScript that will toggle a small div under the respective image that contains the xhtml-formatted copy-pastable code

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  316. Ge0rG

    does it make sense to have "Client" or "Server" in the badge?

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  319. Ge0rG

    I'd like to have a large XMPP logo on the left, two lines with the tag name and a large-ish "XMPP" in the middle, and a large year on the right.

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  326. Ge0rG

    Something like this: https://op-co.de/tmp/core-client-2019.svg

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  328. MattJ

    Don't know if it's just me, but the second line is ~3px high and impossible to read

  329. Ge0rG

    MattJ: zoom in!

  330. MattJ

    You make me hate SVGs with suggestions like that :)

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  334. jonas’

    merge prepared, test build running locally, pushing in a few minutes

  335. jonas’

    Ge0rG, looks nice tho

  336. Ge0rG

    IANAGA

  337. jonas’

    graphics what?

  338. Ge0rG

    artist

  339. jonas’

    ah

  340. jonas’

    GD is the more common term I think

  341. Ge0rG

    :shrug:

  342. jonas’

    test build passed \o/

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  345. Ge0rG is now sitting and maniacally force-reloading the XEP

  346. jonas’

    wait for one hour

  347. jonas’

    and ping me when it’s updated so I can send out the emails

  348. Ge0rG

    I'd like to get the new version onto the Council agenda.

  349. Ge0rG

    ...for last week, ideally.

  350. jonas’

    hm

  351. jonas’

    I don’t see a build on docker hub

  352. jonas’

    ah, it’s just hidden

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  368. jonas’

    Ge0rG, there you go

  369. Ge0rG

    jonas’: thanks very much!

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