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Neustradamus
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0412.html -> Added XEP-0313 and XEP-0412 to 'Advanced Group Chat' There is a problem no? 0410 no?
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jonas’
Neustradamus, yes, that will be fixed when I touch the XEP the next time
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Neustradamus
Ok!
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jonas’
making a build just to fix a trivial typo which was already announced on the ML seemed a bit overkill to me :)
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Ge0rG
Oh, for a brief moment I thought that all votes were in an the XEP got promoted.
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dwd
Ge0rG, All the vote *are* in.
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Ge0rG
Yay!
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jonas’
next time they show up, can someone who has privileges in this (xsf@) room simply join offtopic@ and invite fire?
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jonas’
in the hope that their client picks up on the invite and they can join
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jonas’
or, someone who speaks russian explain it to them
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rion
jonas’: ОКей =)
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Ge0rG
There is also the yaxim-ru@chat.yax.im MUC which contains some Hardcore English Refuseniks.
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Ge0rG
Wow, 0412 was a close call. 3x +1, 1x +0, 1x -0
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Ge0rG
But jonas’ or another volunteer editor (ha-ha-ha) can push The Button now.
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theTedd
Ge0rG, I have a quick question regarding your 0412 changes (we can call it editorial)
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theTedd
- isn't the addition of 0313 (MAM) to 'Advanced Group Chat' redundant when it's already present in 'History Storage/Retrieval' (both require it only for Advanced Server and Client, so it' effectively the same)
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theTedd
the only reason seems to be to include the [33] note, which could be put on the latter and simply say history should be supported for both MUC archive and a User's account
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jonas’
theTedd, I think it’s good to have it in both sections for discoverability
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theTedd
but if someone aims for "Advanced IM" then they're going to implement it anyway
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Ge0rG
theTedd: my rationale was that you need it both on your account and on a MUC service to work properly and everywhere
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theTedd
sure, so why not just add the note to 'History Storage/Retrieval' to indicate it should support both?
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Ge0rG
My feeling was that it's more explicit this way
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Ge0rG
And that it doesn't hurt to have
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theTedd
okay
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Ge0rG
why is theTedd only appearing for short periods and then vanishing again?
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theTedd
to maintain an air of mystery?
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Ge0rG
theTedd: with this behavior, you are only fueling the rumors about you being an alter ego of somebody deep inside the XSF.
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Ge0rG
theTedd: anyway, I wanted to talk to you about the badges. I like the dynamic generator approach, and wondered if we can/should increase the size of the badges.
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Ge0rG
Also I don't remember any more which emoji we decided to use instead of the '+'
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theTedd
we can adjust anything in the svg template, though I think 'badges' have a de facto size at this point
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theTedd
I don't think we found anything acceptable; I'm also not sure it should be an issue as long as we're not trying to pass it off as a product name
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Ge0rG
Maybe it's my 1080p 5" screen, but I consider the default badge size to be unreadable
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Ge0rG
it can only have originated from ignorant silicon valley brogrammers.
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theTedd
well, anything above 8pt is obviously far too big
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Ge0rG
theTedd: how did you generate the template?
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Ge0rG
was it based on the svg that I got from badges.io, or did you embed your own copy of the XMPP logo?
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theTedd
I stole it from the badges shields'io generates
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Ge0rG
at least I want it to be in dp
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Ge0rG
ot whatever metric is "density-independet pseudopixels or points" in CSS
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Ge0rG
and SVG
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theTedd
'rem' should be used where possible
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theTedd
I also embedeed a base64 version of the logo
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Ge0rG
what's wrong with 'em' when embedding them into text?
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Ge0rG
theTedd: your logo is image/png, isn't it?
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theTedd
it's png, yes
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Ge0rG
Hm. messages to this MUC appear to have some seconds of delay, but pings get through immediately.
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Ge0rG
that might be a problem when scaling up
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Ge0rG
and I suppose there is no way to say "width of string X plus 20 em"
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theTedd
it can easily be changed to svg, but it's not worth it as small sizes
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Ge0rG
Hm. I think I don't actually want to learn that much about the inner working of SVG.
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theTedd
that may be wise
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Ge0rG
I need to stop before I remember that you can include CSS and JavaScript and all the bottomless pits of webtech.
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Ge0rG
Oh. Damn,
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theTedd
you can animate svgs
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theTedd
I had a passing idea for scrolling the suite's categories in the badge
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theTedd
then decided it's bad UI
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Ge0rG
theTedd: that's an awesome thing. But only let it run on 04/01
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jonas’
.
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jonas’
unrelated
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jonas’
there was this SVG file with the corporate design of the XSF
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jonas’
with the colour codes and stuff for the primary colours of the XSF / XMPP logo design
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Ge0rG
there is a corporate design?
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jonas’
does anyone know where that file is?
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jonas’
cc @ Ge0rG
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jonas’
cc @ Guus
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jonas’
I think it bubbled up when the logo fixup was discussed a year ago or so
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jonas’
I need the colour codes for things
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dwd
For "Things"?
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jonas’
things
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jonas’
unspecified
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jonas’
I don’t know if there will be results so I don’t want to get everyone crazy about it
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dwd
theTedd, Also, +1 for MARQUEE badges. Retro-style.
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dwd
jonas’, See, now I'm excited.
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jonas’
I wouldn’t have said a thing if I didn’t need that file ;)
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theTedd
all colour references from the logo svg: #002B5C #002B5C #13B5EA #13B5EA #1B3967 #1B3967 #439639 #A0CE67 #D9541E #E96D1F
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jonas’
theTedd, thanks; I could’ve done that myself, but I specifically remember there to exist a file which listed the base colours upon which the logo was designed
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jonas’
and I’d like to have that file to get it right :)
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jonas’
it’s not urgent either, I can use a placeholder :)
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theTedd
blue and orange :D
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jonas’
essentially, yes
- Zash looks at prosody.svg
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Ge0rG
http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html
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theTedd
they're the colours of calm and ACTION
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Ge0rG
CTCP ACTION?
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theTedd
amazingly, no
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theTedd
unofficial corporate palette: https://i.imgur.com/PKCwWWN.png
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Guus
jonas’: the logo on the website top left corner is a SVG
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Guus
Does that help?
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theTedd
that's where I got these colours from
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jonas’
Guus, no
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jonas’
I’m looking for the specific document
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Guus
jonas’: unsure, unable to dig into it now
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jonas’
it’s not urgend✎ -
jonas’
it’s not urgent ✏
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Guus
Try ralphm
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ralphm
There's an SVG in our repo I think.
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ralphm
I'm looking up the one I have (switched machines and need to sort out the mess)
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ralphm
http://mag.ik.nu/~ralphm/xmpp.svg
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ralphm
And for what it is worth, orange is the awesomest color. Not even because our Royal Family is indirectly named after it.
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Ge0rG
Orange is the new Teal.
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jonas’
may I kindly point you at my email to members@: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2019-April/008958.html TL;DR: I’m re-doing the XEP CSS and want feedback on it. Example: https://sotecware.net/files/noindex/xeptest/xep-0030.html
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pep.
jonas’, "Removed legacy stuff and replaced it with modern stuff" what does that mean
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jonas’
pep., <span class='em'> -> <em> for example
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pep.
k
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jonas’
<a name='foo'> -> id='foo' on whatever element this was about
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jonas’
and that type of stuff
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jonas’
did you realize that the ToC was actually a <br/>-separated list of links, indented using nbsp, before? :(
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pep.
:(
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jonas’
afk for tonight
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Wiktor
Looks good on first sight, not enough margins on mobile though.
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moparisthebest
that's awful jonas’ , it should be a <table> right?
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moparisthebest
>:)
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jonas’
moparisthebest, don’t joke about tables
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jonas’
Wiktor, indeed, I haven’t looked at it with an actual mobile yet
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Zash
https://cerdale.zash.se/upload/Kvef4RrFUulHjxMC/Sk%c3%a4rmbild_20190403_001.png
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Zash
Tiny bit more margins wouldn't have hurt