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Kev
jonas’: I've not tested on mobile, but the current rendering of https://sotecware.net/files/noindex/xeptest/xep-0030.html looks much better on desktop than the old one, thanks.
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jonas’
Kev, :)
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Kev
Personally, I'd be inclined to say 'ship it'.
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jonas’
I have a few minor things on my to-fix
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Kev
Doesn't preclude more tweaks later, but that seems likea big win already.
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Ge0rG
I miss the orange :D
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jonas’
Ge0rG, you were ~the first to complain about it! ;)
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Ge0rG
jonas’: I got used to it. Especially after it got darker
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Ge0rG
jonas’: obviously I'm just bike-shedding now. Great work!
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jonas’
Ge0rG, how about choosing the font colour based on status? Draft / Final get green, everything else orange ;)
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Guus
ship it
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Ge0rG
jonas’: +1
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jonas’
Ge0rG, I wasn’t serious
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Ge0rG
jonas’: why is the "HTML" link under https://sotecware.net/files/noindex/xeptest/xep-0030.html#appendix-docinfo pointing to XML?
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Ge0rG
jonas’: awwww...
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jonas’
Ge0rG, probably because I typo’d
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Guus
ship it
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jonas’
ah, no, because the source control is an HTML page
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jonas’
Guus, -EBUSY, will this weekend :)
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Guus
shiiiiip it!
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jonas’
but thanks :)
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jonas’
it also needs a proper attribution of the yaml CSS framework somewhere, I’ll put that under the legal stuff
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Guus
oooooooh "ship it meme" generates good results!
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Guus
https://igniterealtime.org:443/httpfileupload/202e5084-2949-44fe-b24e-3d52871f0063/i-say-ship-it-ship-it-good.jpg
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jonas’
scary
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pep.
jonas’: the "source control" link is it an attempt at having an "Edit on GitHub" like thing? :p
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jonas’
pep., it was there before, I just restyled it
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pep.
Oh really
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jonas’
but Edit on GitHub is probably not a bad idea
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Ge0rG
> This XMPP Extension Protocol is copyright © 1999 – 2018 by the XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF). This is so yesterday
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jonas’
yesteryear
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Ge0rG
jonas’: the margin below the style-less <p> in revision history should be much smaller
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Ge0rG
(can you have <ul> in <li> without a <p>?)
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Ge0rG
jonas’: can we have anchors on all revision items in the history?
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Ge0rG
I motion to rename "Draft Standard" into "Living Standard"
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jonas’
that’s unrelated
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Ge0rG
> The Last Call ends on 2019-01-22. 😭
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jonas’
280?
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Ge0rG
0410
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jonas’
ah
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Ge0rG
jonas’: there is a missing whitespace in the Proposed template
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Ge0rG
> the XSF standards process.The Last Call ends
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jonas’
ah
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jonas’
yeah I broke that probably
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jonas’
can you drop me a one-liner email about that?
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jonas’
I’m likely to forget about it
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Ge0rG
jonas’: I'll send to members
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jonas’
even better
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Ge0rG
0412 needs a promotion as well✎ -
jonas’
?
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Ge0rG
Wait.
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Ge0rG
You mentioned that the new renderings are running an out-of-sync version of xeps.
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jonas’
yes
- Ge0rG was confused.
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Alex
https://share.conversations.im/gnauck/Vpq5LQUzkZBuW3zv/psi-share-1554457060226.png
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Guus
I was once told to never allow newline within a persons name. Do I understand correctly that the author details are copied in from one entity? Maybe replace all spaces with non-breaking spaces, and Saint-Andre's dash with a non-breaking dash?
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pep.
I don't think many can read squares here, but TIL: https://www.im-net.org/ https://www.im-net.org/sp/xmpp/ :)
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jonas’
Guus, sounds like a plan, and also like something which we can do in the XSLT
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jonas’
XPath fortunately has a translate() function, which should be well-sufficient for that purpose
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Neustradamus
Have you planned to update the year? Every new year, I request it.
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pep.
Send a PR?
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Ge0rG
Every December, I ask my calendar provider to *not* update the year
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pep.
Neustradamus, maybe someday you'll stop asking and you'll start doing things :)
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Neustradamus
For this, I can do, yes.
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pep.
With all the things you notice I'm sure you could be a great contributor
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pep.
At the moment it's more annoying than not
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Neustradamus
I contribute in several projects, but I can not launch the debian OS upgrade, the M-Link upgrade, the DH key generation, ...
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pep.
Ok I lost you there, but whatever
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jonas’
Neustradamus, bad timing, I’ll update the year with the CSS upgrade
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jonas’
don’t make a PR against xep.xsl
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jonas’
I rewrite it anyways
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jonas’
but thanks for the thought, Neustradamus
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Ge0rG
jonas’: why are there xep-XXXX-version tags on the xeps repo now?
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jonas’
Ge0rG, because I started creating them
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jonas’
good for xep archeology purposes
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Ge0rG
is it possible to have sub-directories in tags?
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Ge0rG
xep-0419/v1.0.0
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jonas’
why?
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Ge0rG
jonas’: I fear that most tag-oriented workflows are not designed for managing hundreds of tags.
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jonas’
Ge0rG, we’ll see
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Ge0rG
(this is not an answer to your question)
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Zash
Can you delete tags in git?
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Ge0rG
yes
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jonas’
yes(*)
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Ge0rG
jonas’: please also tag namespace versions.
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jonas’
Ge0rG, interesting idea
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Zash
Oh, diff -r mam:1 -r mam:2 would be nice
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jonas’
a lot, yes
- Ge0rG slowly walks himself out.
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Ge0rG
No. Wait.
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jonas’
$ git tag urn:xmpp:foo:0 fatal: 'urn:xmpp:foo:0' is not a valid tag name.
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jonas’
pity
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Ge0rG
SARCASM!1!1!!!!!
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Zash
y tho
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jonas’
we can url-encode the namespaces though
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jonas’
I guess it’s for windows compat :/
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Neustradamus
A lot of works for all XEP tags since the beginning!
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pep.
ugh
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jonas’
Neustradamus, won’t do that
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jonas’
only for new stuff
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jonas’
if someone wants to do it for old stuff, feel free
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Ge0rG
> Note: It is a good practice to use the same message type as the message that requested the receipt, however the XEP authors forgot to mention it and we don't want to version-bump. When sending a Receipt for a type='groupchat' message, it is RECOMMENDED to send the Receipt to the bare JID and not to the full JID of the sender, to ensure that it is reflected to all MUC participants.
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Ge0rG
This one is still dangling aroung in my unfinished-XEP-edits list
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Ge0rG
(a Note box for 0184)
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Ge0rG
I think that it can be polished into a proper PR by redacting a single sentence, but I lack the lack of cynicism to complete it.
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jonas’
Ge0rG, I think that NS bumping receipts makes sense, actually
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jonas’
if only for multi-receipts
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Ge0rG
jonas’: let's start with ns-bumping 0045 and 0280 first.
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Ge0rG
multi-0184 is the least of our problems.
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jonas’
s/and 280/and replacing 280 with IM-NG/
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jonas’
ftfy
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jonas’
gotta run
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Zash
receipts sent to everyone? Hm
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Ge0rG
Zash: prosody isn't.
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Zash
wat
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Ge0rG
sending receipts to everyone.
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Neustradamus
For inbox proposal xep to real XEP, how we can do the redirection in the github?
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Neustradamus
For close this ticket: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/421
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Ge0rG
how do you reference a later chapter of a XEP in that XEPs XML?
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Ge0rG
Let's annoy Council and Editor over the weekend: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/778
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Ge0rG
jonas’: the box below https://sotecware.net/files/noindex/xeptest/xep-0184.html#example-3 has rounded corners, while the example itself has cornered corners.
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Ge0rG
intosi, Kev, MattJ: the disco#items response on conference.jabber.org violates the RFC due to a bad old data import. It would be awesome if this could get fixed one day
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Zash
... one day
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jonas’
https://sotecware.net/files/noindex/xeptest/xep-0045.html another update. make sure you clear your browser caches first. I’d especially like feedback on the document lifecycle view thing I made
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lovetox
looks nice
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lovetox
maybe move it to the bottom of that block, maybe let it start at the Status line
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lovetox
just an idea
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jonas’
isn’t trivial due to how things are laid out
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lovetox
the width of the content could be a bit bigger, much whitespace between the menu and the content, on a desktop
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Ge0rG
jonas’: 0045 has a significant horizontal scrolling issue on mobile Firefox
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jonas’
Ge0rG, does it happen with '390 too?
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jonas’
if not, it’s an issue with '45
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jonas’
lovetox, intended, too long lines are hard to read
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pep.
Wait, proposed is after Experimental?
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jonas’
pep., proposed is last call
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pep.
I see
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Ge0rG
jonas’: it's the https://sotecware.net/files/noindex/xeptest/xep-0045.html#impl-client-irc
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lovetox
oh i see you use the same width as there is now
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lovetox
then i guess its fine
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pep.
jonas’, btw, https://ppjet.bouah.net/xep1.png at first I thought it was pretty stylish, but then I realized it was a fail
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jonas’
Ge0rG, can’t be fixed I guess :/
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jonas’
afk
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lovetox
yeah the longer i look at that document lifecycly thing the more i wish its not at the top, you cant see easy when the abstract ends
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pep.
Otherwise I think that lifecycle diagram thingy is nice, and rather important in making people understanding what is what. I don't especially like the words that are used, (not sure what to replace them with), but that fixes most of the issue I have with them
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Ge0rG
> I motion to rename "Draft Standard" into "Living Standard"
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Zash
Isn't that experimental?
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Ge0rG
Isn't everything?