XSF Discussion - 2019-04-19


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  14. Alice

    Hi there !

  15. Alice

    all you guys doze off ?

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  115. Kev

    So, question (flow): When's the GSoC application review this year, and should Council be being asked to review stuff?

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  124. Kev

    I've got feeling student applications finished ages ago, so it has to be coming up soon?

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  129. Kev

    flow?

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  141. MattJ

    What would Council review?

  142. Kev

    Council reviews the applications to give input into which ones the XSF should request slots for.

  143. MattJ

    Says? I wasn't aware of that, and I don't think flow was either, afaik our slot requests are already submitted

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  145. Kev

    We've always done it that way.

  146. Kev

    Ah. So who chose them, then?

  147. MattJ

    The individual projects

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  149. Kev

    Well, too late to do anything about it now then, I guess, if slots are already submitted.

  150. Kev

    But the reasoning has always been that Council's technical leadership, so should have input into what projects are worth supporting etc.

  151. Zash

    Is this written down anywhere?

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  154. Kev

    Probably on a past mailing list somewhere.

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  156. MattJ

    I'm convinced the XSF needs more documentation on processes like this

  157. Kev

    A quick search of my mailbox shows Council minutes from 2015 of being told to sign up for review (actually while you were on Council, FWIW).

  158. MattJ

    Believe it or not I don't remember what was in the minutes of a random council meeting in 2015

  159. MattJ

    It seems a bit silly to me that Council would decide slot requests

  160. Kev

    I more meant that you'd been reviewing stuff on behalf of Council when you'd been on Council in the past, that expecting you to remember the minutes :)

  161. MattJ

    I can see why Council review/input may be requested on specific proposals that involve protocol stuff

  162. Kev

    Council haven't decided slot requests, they've just reviewed and given input to the admin, who'se typically asked Board to rubber-stamp the choices.

  163. Kev

    (Although not always, sometimes Board's just said to get on with everything)

  164. Kev

    It's more whether particular projects are sensible priorities for the XSF to spend their slots on.

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  167. MattJ

    Well if we don't get the slots we requested (entirely possible), some discussion will be needed to decide which proposals get priority

  168. Kev

    How many did we request?

  169. MattJ

    2-4, according to flow's last email

  170. Kev

    Almost bound to get 2, I think.

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  172. Kev

    4, who knows.

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  174. MattJ

    Yes, I wouldn't be surprised

  175. Zash

    3 would be lagom // a swede

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  184. pep.

    I'm also surprised why council is needed at all. I guess the only relevant part that it could play is what MattJ brought up, if we get less slots than requested.

  185. pep.

    Though.. projects have asked for min-max slots so..

  186. MattJ

    Right, but we could still be allocated fewer than the min number of slots we requested

  187. pep.

    Sure, that's the only use-case I see

  188. pep.

    And even then

  189. pep.

    That's up to the org admin to come up with a way to decide I guess, I don't think we need to involve council

  190. pep.

    (note, the org admin can choose to)

  191. Zash

    Does it hurt for council to provide input?

  192. pep.

    It doesn't hurt but I don't see the point

  193. pep.

    They're busy enough already

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  207. Guus

    I wasn't aware that council was involved in the past either. Fwiw, Flow announced he'd be off for a short holiday.

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  522. larma

    I feel that the mentors + org-admin are likely able to decide without involvement of the council, even if the number of allocated slots doesn't match what was requested (it's not like we are going to fight each other, more likely the complete opposite).

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  789. Zash

    huh

  790. Zash

    Where does xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" come from in the XEP HTML files?

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  792. Zash

    and what does `--param htmlbase ...` do?

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