XSF Discussion - 2019-04-19

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02:55:56 Alice Hi there !
02:57:22 Alice all you guys doze off ?
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09:23:49 Kev So, question (flow): When's the GSoC application review this year, and should Council be being asked to review stuff?
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09:27:22 Kev I've got feeling student applications finished ages ago, so it has to be coming up soon?
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09:32:32 Kev flow?
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09:57:00 MattJ What would Council review?
09:58:00 Kev Council reviews the applications to give input into which ones the XSF should request slots for.
09:58:53 MattJ Says? I wasn't aware of that, and I don't think flow was either, afaik our slot requests are already submitted
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09:59:42 Kev We've always done it that way.
09:59:52 Kev Ah. So who chose them, then?
10:00:19 MattJ The individual projects
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10:01:41 Kev Well, too late to do anything about it now then, I guess, if slots are already submitted.
10:02:23 Kev But the reasoning has always been that Council's technical leadership, so should have input into what projects are worth supporting etc.
10:03:02 Zash Is this written down anywhere?
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10:03:33 Kev Probably on a past mailing list somewhere.
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10:04:12 MattJ I'm convinced the XSF needs more documentation on processes like this
10:06:17 Kev A quick search of my mailbox shows Council minutes from 2015 of being told to sign up for review (actually while you were on Council, FWIW).
10:07:06 MattJ Believe it or not I don't remember what was in the minutes of a random council meeting in 2015
10:07:44 MattJ It seems a bit silly to me that Council would decide slot requests
10:08:00 Kev I more meant that you'd been reviewing stuff on behalf of Council when you'd been on Council in the past, that expecting you to remember the minutes :)
10:08:07 MattJ I can see why Council review/input may be requested on specific proposals that involve protocol stuff
10:08:22 Kev Council haven't decided slot requests, they've just reviewed and given input to the admin, who'se typically asked Board to rubber-stamp the choices.
10:09:06 Kev (Although not always, sometimes Board's just said to get on with everything)
10:09:33 Kev It's more whether particular projects are sensible priorities for the XSF to spend their slots on.
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10:11:05 MattJ Well if we don't get the slots we requested (entirely possible), some discussion will be needed to decide which proposals get priority
10:13:50 Kev How many did we request?
10:15:30 MattJ 2-4, according to flow's last email
10:16:03 Kev Almost bound to get 2, I think.
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10:16:39 Kev 4, who knows.
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10:16:47 MattJ Yes, I wouldn't be surprised
10:17:21 Zash 3 would be lagom // a swede
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10:33:56 pep. I'm also surprised why council is needed at all. I guess the only relevant part that it could play is what MattJ brought up, if we get less slots than requested.
10:34:10 pep. Though.. projects have asked for min-max slots so..
10:34:39 MattJ Right, but we could still be allocated fewer than the min number of slots we requested
10:34:55 pep. Sure, that's the only use-case I see
10:35:03 pep. And even then
10:35:37 pep. That's up to the org admin to come up with a way to decide I guess, I don't think we need to involve council
10:37:00 pep. (note, the org admin can choose to)
10:37:01 Zash Does it hurt for council to provide input?
10:37:15 pep. It doesn't hurt but I don't see the point
10:37:18 pep. They're busy enough already
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11:37:30 Guus I wasn't aware that council was involved in the past either. Fwiw, Flow announced he'd be off for a short holiday.
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18:05:12 larma I feel that the mentors + org-admin are likely able to decide without involvement of the council, even if the number of allocated slots doesn't match what was requested (it's not like we are going to fight each other, more likely the complete opposite).
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