XSF Discussion - 2019-04-25

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  108. pep. https://xmpp.org/2019/01/google-summer-of-code-2019/ is that pelican failing to parse the Project_Ideas url? Do we have to tell it for every single one?
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  114. pep. Is there an equivalent markdown for `<https://foo.bar>`_ (note, I don't know if that's valid rst either, without a link description)
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  135. jonas’ pep., [url](description)?
  136. jonas’ or just [url](url)?
  137. pep. right, I did the latter, but that seemed a bit repetitive
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  157. Zash pep.: <url> maybe?
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  166. flow http://www.astroscu.unam.mx/rmaa/RMxAC..51/PDF/RMxAC..51_articulo06.pdf
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  171. Zash flow: Cool
  172. flow It appears to be open access, so maybe the XSF could blog about it
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  175. flow Added to https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter#Other - I hope that was right
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  177. wurstsalat this is nice to read!
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  181. edhelas yup !
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  184. jonas’ pep., https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/560/files#r278525237
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  186. Guus flow would be a nice addition to https://xmpp.org/uses/
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  188. vanitasvitae Yay, we got 4 slots for GSoC :)
  189. vanitasvitae Ah no wait, nvm
  190. pep. jonas’: sure, I was just fixing the link :p
  191. jonas’ pep., it solves your link markup dilemma :)
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  194. pep. I'd say that'S a workaround rather than a fix
  195. pep. But that looks better yes
  196. jonas’ it’s a fix, because it also fixes the a11y issues of raw URLs
  197. pep. not a fix for my issue
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  202. Guus vanitasvitae yes we did.
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  224. ralphm 0. Welcome + Agenda
  225. ralphm Hi!
  226. ralphm Who do we have today?
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  228. Guus I can't join in today, as announced
  229. MattJ o/
  230. ralphm Guus: no worries
  231. Guus will try to read along
  232. ralphm Seve?
  233. ralphm 1. Minute taker
  234. ralphm Who?
  235. ralphm (Assuming that nyco is actually here)
  236. nyco (I am)
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  240. MattJ No minute taker, I assume
  241. ralphm Guess no meeting then.
  242. ralphm This is getting ridiculous.
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  244. nyco because no one wants to take notes? we can still have a meeting, can't we?
  245. ralphm No
  246. ralphm Having meetings without minutes is not acceptable to me, to be honest.
  247. MattJ It's not acceptable according to the org bylaws
  248. ralphm And that, I didn't even check.
  249. nyco then we're quite regularly out of bounds
  250. nyco we failed many times to deliver those minutes
  251. ralphm Yes, and I am a bit fed up with it.
  252. nyco so am I
  253. ralphm So, either one of us takes notes, or we find a sustainable other solution.
  254. nyco I still believe we should use a real-time collaborative text editor just proposing a solution to the lack of volunteers
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  256. nyco ok, let me take the notes today
  257. ralphm nyco: it is not ideal to have people taking part in the discussion also having to take notes.
  258. nyco go on
  259. nyco please
  260. ralphm Ok, thank you.
  261. nyco it is less ideal to have no notes
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  264. ralphm 2. Infrastructure Team lead
  265. ralphm I have not seen anyone step up for this?
  266. nyco neither have I
  267. nyco I offer a "Pain au Chocolat" to anyone who will take the lead!
  268. ralphm :-D
  269. nyco (that's extrinsic motivation, but hey)
  270. MattJ I'll take it
  271. Kev More than I ever got for it :p
  272. ralphm MattJ: the pain or the pain?
  273. MattJ Oh dear
  274. nyco ok, one for Kev as well => send me privately your mail address
  275. nyco > MattJ: the pain or the pain? indeed, needs clarification and precision
  276. MattJ I'll take the pain
  277. MattJ But seriously, if nobody else steps up, I'm willing to take it on
  278. ralphm I am taking a leap here knowing Kev and Intosi won't object to MattJ as lead, so I motion we appoint MattJ as lead of iteam.
  279. ralphm +1
  280. nyco +1
  281. nyco one _pain_ for MattJ 😉
  282. Seve +1
  283. MattJ Just one. And a chocolate pastry. Sounds like deal :)
  284. ralphm MattJ: you may vote
  285. Seve I can take notes after the meeting, not while we are at it
  286. MattJ Well, since I proposed it... +1?
  287. nyco thanks a lot to both Kev and MattJ, congrats MattJ! 😉
  288. ralphm Good. The ayes have it.
  289. ralphm 3. Deferred XEP typos
  290. nyco (Kev got your golden parachute?)
  291. nyco (@Kev: got your golden parachute?)
  292. ralphm I seem to remember there was recent discussion on this in Council?
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  295. ralphm jonas’: ?
  296. Kev Fine with MattJ as lead for the record.
  297. ralphm Kev: thanks. Wasn't there recent discussion in Council on XEP version numbers that touches on this?
  298. Kev On a call at the moment, sorry.
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  300. Guus https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/780
  301. Guus that?
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  303. ralphm Ah yes.
  304. Guus happy for Matt to have accepted chocolate-induced-pain.
  305. ralphm I think that PR should have review by Council, first.
  306. ralphm I.e. I wouldn't like to make changes to XEP-0001 with them forming an opinion on it.
  307. ralphm without
  308. ralphm I've added the _Needs Council_ label to make sure, and let the minutes reflect that we'd like their input.
  309. ralphm 4. Server setup
  310. Guus board can form an opinion without Council
  311. Guus no need to wait expressing the opinion - we can hold off voting on it though.
  312. ralphm Guus: yes we can, but I like their opinion when it changes the process.
  313. ralphm I had a brief discussion with Edwin on the server setup.
  314. ralphm iteam members have been a bit swamped with other stuff to pick this up.
  315. ralphm In any case, they would like to balance the existing offer to continue hosting parts of our infrastructure where it is now, while also looking into having stuff in some cloud offering
  316. ralphm (most likely AWS)
  317. ralphm Examples include DNS resolution and hosting our website.
  318. MattJ I'd be quite happy with the XSF officially adopting $some_cloud_provider for (at least some) infrastructure
  319. ralphm There's no actionable plan, yet, but I have expressed that Board would be ok with paying for hosting some of our infra at AWS. I also think it makes sense to retain existing hosting, but there might be some required hardware upgrades, too.
  320. ralphm So MattJ, let's have that discussion with iteam, I'd be happy to sit in and help out.
  321. MattJ Great
  322. jonas’ it would be nice to have the mission critical stuff in some stable environment (maybe we can push to aws from travis directly and save the docker roundtrip for the website and xeps, too?) and allow more experimental stuff on the main machine
  323. ralphm jonas’: noted. Moving this discussion to iteam.
  324. ralphm 5. Tigase / XMPP Logo
  325. ralphm I haven't asked stpeter yet. Will contact him this week.
  326. ralphm 6. AOB
  327. nyco not for me
  328. ralphm 7. Date of Next
  329. ralphm +1W
  330. ralphm 8. Close
  331. ralphm Thanks All!
  332. ralphm bangs gavel
  333. nyco -1, I'll try to join from my holidays in Italy
  334. MattJ Thanks ralphm/all
  335. nyco thx
  336. nyco > Thanks ralphm/all ralphm divided by all?
  337. ralphm Oh, I think I'm on a plane next week.
  338. nyco still have wifi? 😉
  339. ralphm nyco: such is the fate of a chair person
  340. ralphm nyco: crossatlantic, so no
  341. ralphm Since I'm flying at 11:00 CEST to JFK, I'm sure I'd be somewhere just passed Iceland or so
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  344. Seve Thank you for the meeting guys
  345. nyco minutes sent, please read and correct me if I got something wrong or forgot anything
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  352. MattJ Thanks nyco :)
  353. Guus Congratulations MattJ
  354. Guus enjoy the pain.
  355. MattJ Thanks :)
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  393. jonas’ MattJ, congrats!
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  408. Ge0rG MattJ: congratulations! Now please let me bother you in your new role with https://github.com/xsf/mediawiki-docker/issues/2
  409. MattJ uh-oh
  410. Zash So it begins
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  412. Ge0rG It's merely half a year that I'm asking for that feature
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  552. Neustradamus Congrats to MattJ for iteam! After your good job with XMPP.net it is normal!
  553. Neustradamus Can not wait the update of this part: https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/infrastructure-team
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  555. Ge0rG Neustradamus: make a PR?
  556. Neustradamus Time to move the https://github.com/stpeter/jabberdotorg to org? Ticket: https://github.com/stpeter/jabberdotorg/issues/9 And have an update of this page too: https://www.jabber.org/team.html
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  558. Neustradamus Ge0rG: Only the leader knows what people are in team ^^ cleaning time :)
  559. Neustradamus Linked to https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/483
  560. Ge0rG we need a LIDAR!
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