XSF Discussion - 2019-05-09

Can we also see that email to board@ btw? (iirc this list is private?)

pep.: how about this https://op-co.de/tmp/messenger-regulation.html

Get them to lead by example and go XMPP exclusive.

we should open the XSF Diplomacy Bureau

It would be great to get in contact with the politicians

From XEP-0260: >> Here the value is calculated as SHA1(SID + Initiator JID + Responder JID) since the initiator will be the entity that activates the bytestream at the proxy. That's basically wrong. The proxy will be activated by an entity which sent the proxy candidate. Since any party can send a proxy candidate we don't know if it's initiator or responder.

I'm going to implement it old-fashioned way in Psi. In other words SHA1(SID + <JID or party offered proxy candidate> + <JID or party accepting proxy candidate>) and then, the party offered proxy candidate will activate the proxy.

rion, that sounds familiar, I think I run into the same issue

would you mind creating an PR against xep260 for that, or at least document it at https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XEP-Remarks/XEP-0260:_Jingle_SOCKS5_Bytestreams_Transport_Method ?

see also xep260 note 4

flow: sure. I will

rion, much appreciated

Hi Board, apologies, won't be able to join this meeting

No worries nyco - thanks for the heads up.

ralphm mentioned yesterday that he'd be in a plane again, I think.

so he ... "board"ed ahead of time?

Maybe we should declare this a dad-joke-free zone...

what’s wrong with duplicate-address-detection jokes?

jonas’ enough with the coffee.

May be a few min late

Seve are you available?

Yes, I am.

Hey

Ralph said he's out today

indeed, as did nyco

so it's us

does someone want to chair?

we've established who's here. The agenda will be Trello driven, as usual. Does someone want to add anything?

I'm also looking for someone to do the minutes

I have nothing to add. Minutes can be done after the meeting as past times I guess

thanks

1. Succession of Kev as iteam lead

MattJ already took over, no?

Wasn't this resolved by MattJ stepping up?

yeah, wondering if it was left on Trello for a reason

Yes, as far as I remember.

Yep

archived the card

I think we can consider it resolved

2. Clarify what happens when a typo (or equivalent) is fixed in a Deferred XEP

two weeks ago, we requested input from Council on this

I've not read up on their minutes

Kev, can you tell us if Council gave feedback on this?

we might've lost him. I'll leave this for now

both commitments were Ralph's, who's not here. I did see an email regarding the Tigase logo issue, but I'm not sure if he followed up with TIgase.

3. How to proceed with Compliance Badges?

We have now three possible designs. How do we want to proceed? Do we want to choose a solution now? Do we want to get in touch with the three volunteers to submit a final proposal? Needs discussion.

cc Ge0rG

Sorry, I'm back.

Council suggested an alternative approach to that PR.

(Which was to properly define our versioning scheme). Jonas took that on.

Sorry, I'm semi gone

Thanks Kev, I'll leave that as a remark on the Trello card.

Guus: I think all three designs aren't quite there yet, rather prototypes.

Ge0rG as the driving force behind this, as well as the XEP author iirc, are you intending to follow up?

Or do you prefer that someone else takes this on?

(I have the impression that your 'semi-gone' state is shared with much of board)

*tap*tap* this thing on?

:)

Sorry, crazy day, but I am here

To me, I liked that somebody not in the community suggested a design, I would be curious about what could he do

Guus: I'm going to be fully gone for two weeks starting tomorrow evening, so I'm not opposed to more support

I would like to know what do you guys think, as Ge0rG says, they are more prototypes than something finished, but we need to decide where do we go next

I'd appreciate community feedback on the visual quality and content of the prototypes

Seve: I like them as-is - but I'm not UI expert by far. I'm also wondering how we decide on what to pick.

Ge0rG mailinglist?

Guus: would you?

yes, but later.

I'm crazy busy with work that MattJ was to crazy-busy with.

🙂

if later is before next Board meeting, that's sooner than I could

ok, no point in discussing it more now, I think.

Do we want to discuss the Messenger Regulation thingy now?

I don't feel we've got the attention span required, to tbh

I haven't reviewed the email properly yet

just vote yes. I'm well known for responsibly handling communications.

:)

fwiw, thanks for suggesting this, Ge0rG - I hope we can find a way to collaborate

# AOB

I'd like to mention that we have 3 accepted GSoC projects/students.

None here

None here as well

flow, do you want to chime in on that perhaps?

I"ll take that as a 'no'.

Date of next

+1w?

I hear no objections 🙂

Thank you very much for chairing, Guus

This felt like typing to a wall, to be honest

more coffee next time, guys 🙂

I understad, but there's nothingng to be said. I haven't read the email as MattJ said, and I would like to finish with the badges thing

by the way, was there a final decision for https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/758

I see that there was a vote made on it https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-May/036104.html

edhelas from what I can see from those minutes, the issue is waiting for Link Mauve 's vote.

edhelas, Guus’ interpretation is correct

😃

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Guus, sorry, was in a meeting. Yes we have 3 GSoC students and I hope to be able to introduce them to you and the world by an blog post soon™

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Guus is slowly moving to a full emoji based conversation

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