Can we also see that email to board@ btw? (iirc this list is private?)
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Ge0rG
pep.: how about this https://op-co.de/tmp/messenger-regulation.html
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Get them to lead by example and go XMPP exclusive.
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edhelas
we should open the XSF Diplomacy Bureau
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vanitasvitae
It would be great to get in contact with the politicians
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rion
From XEP-0260:
>> Here the value is calculated as SHA1(SID + Initiator JID + Responder JID) since the initiator will be the entity that activates the bytestream at the proxy.
That's basically wrong. The proxy will be activated by an entity which sent the proxy candidate. Since any party can send a proxy candidate we don't know if it's initiator or responder.
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rion
I'm going to implement it old-fashioned way in Psi. In other words
SHA1(SID + <JID or party offered proxy candidate> + <JID or party accepting proxy candidate>)
and then, the party offered proxy candidate will activate the proxy.
flow
rion, that sounds familiar, I think I run into the same issue
flow
would you mind creating an PR against xep260 for that, or at least document it at https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XEP-Remarks/XEP-0260:_Jingle_SOCKS5_Bytestreams_Transport_Method ?
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flow
see also xep260 note 4
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flow: sure. I will
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rion, much appreciated
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Hi Board, apologies, won't be able to join this meeting
Guus
No worries nyco - thanks for the heads up.
Guus
ralphm mentioned yesterday that he'd be in a plane again, I think.
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jonasโ
so he ... "board"ed ahead of time?
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Guus
Maybe we should declare this a dad-joke-free zone...
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jonasโ
whatโs wrong with duplicate-address-detection jokes?
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Guus
jonasโ enough with the coffee.
MattJ
May be a few min late
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Guus
Seve are you available?
Seve
Yes, I am.
MattJ
Hey
MattJ
Ralph said he's out today
Guus
indeed, as did nyco
Guus
so it's us
Guus
does someone want to chair?
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Guus
we've established who's here. The agenda will be Trello driven, as usual. Does someone want to add anything?
Guus
I'm also looking for someone to do the minutes
Seve
I have nothing to add. Minutes can be done after the meeting as past times I guess
Guus
thanks
Guus
1. Succession of Kev as iteam lead
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MattJ already took over, no?
Guus
Wasn't this resolved by MattJ stepping up?
Guus
yeah, wondering if it was left on Trello for a reason
Seve
Yes, as far as I remember.
MattJ
Yep
Guus
archived the card
MattJ
I think we can consider it resolved
Guus
2. Clarify what happens when a typo (or equivalent) is fixed in a Deferred XEP
Guus
two weeks ago, we requested input from Council on this
Guus
I've not read up on their minutes
Guus
Kev, can you tell us if Council gave feedback on this?
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Guus
we might've lost him. I'll leave this for now
Guus
both commitments were Ralph's, who's not here. I did see an email regarding the Tigase logo issue, but I'm not sure if he followed up with TIgase.
Guus
3. How to proceed with Compliance Badges?
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Guus
We have now three possible designs. How do we want to proceed?
Do we want to choose a solution now? Do we want to get in touch with the three volunteers to submit a final proposal? Needs discussion.
Guus
cc Ge0rG
Kev
Sorry, I'm back.
Kev
Council suggested an alternative approach to that PR.
Kev
(Which was to properly define our versioning scheme). Jonas took that on.
Ge0rG
Sorry, I'm semi gone
Guus
Thanks Kev, I'll leave that as a remark on the Trello card.
Ge0rG
Guus: I think all three designs aren't quite there yet, rather prototypes.
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Guus
Ge0rG as the driving force behind this, as well as the XEP author iirc, are you intending to follow up?
Guus
Or do you prefer that someone else takes this on?
Guus
(I have the impression that your 'semi-gone' state is shared with much of board)
Guus
*tap*tap* this thing on?
MattJ
:)
MattJ
Sorry, crazy day, but I am here
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Seve
To me, I liked that somebody not in the community suggested a design, I would be curious about what could he do
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Guus: I'm going to be fully gone for two weeks starting tomorrow evening, so I'm not opposed to more support
Seve
I would like to know what do you guys think, as Ge0rG says, they are more prototypes than something finished, but we need to decide where do we go next
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I'd appreciate community feedback on the visual quality and content of the prototypes
Guus
Seve: I like them as-is - but I'm not UI expert by far. I'm also wondering how we decide on what to pick.
Guus
Ge0rG mailinglist?
Ge0rG
Guus: would you?
Guus
yes, but later.
Guus
I'm crazy busy with work that MattJ was to crazy-busy with.
Guus
๐
Ge0rG
if later is before next Board meeting, that's sooner than I could
Guus
ok, no point in discussing it more now, I think.
Guus
Do we want to discuss the Messenger Regulation thingy now?
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I don't feel we've got the attention span required, to tbh
MattJ
I haven't reviewed the email properly yet
Guuskicks that can down the road.
Ge0rG
just vote yes. I'm well known for responsibly handling communications.
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MattJ
:)
Guus
fwiw, thanks for suggesting this, Ge0rG - I hope we can find a way to collaborate
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# AOB
Guus
I'd like to mention that we have 3 accepted GSoC projects/students.
MattJ
None here
Seve
None here as well
Guus
flow, do you want to chime in on that perhaps?
Guus
I"ll take that as a 'no'.
Guus
Date of next
Guus
+1w?
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Guus
I hear no objections ๐
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Seve
Thank you very much for chairing, Guus
Guus
This felt like typing to a wall, to be honest
Guus
more coffee next time, guys ๐
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Seve
I understad, but there's nothingng to be said. I haven't read the email as MattJ said, and I would like to finish with the badges thing
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edhelas
by the way, was there a final decision for https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/758
edhelas
I see that there was a vote made on it https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-May/036104.html
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edhelas from what I can see from those minutes, the issue is waiting for Link Mauve 's vote.
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jonasโ
edhelas, Guusโ interpretation is correct
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๐
Guus
\o/
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flow
Guus, sorry, was in a meeting. Yes we have 3 GSoC students and I hope to be able to introduce them to you and the world by an blog post soonโข
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๐
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Guus is slowly moving to a full emoji based conversation