GuusI think this is of interest: https://help.github.com/en/articles/about-github-sponsors
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mtavaresUse case: send a msg to myself on another remote.
mtavaresI wonder if that is even possible...
moparisthebestmtavares, yep, I send myself messages as notes all the time
moparisthebestnow that I think about it maybe only useful with carbons and mam but whatever, works
GuusTime for the XSF Board meeting.
Guusdid you get my earlier message?
Guus(email text proposal)
ralphm0. Welcome + Agenda
ralphm1. Messenger Regulation Germany/EU
ralphmAny updates here?
Guusthat was on your commitment list, so I guess any updates come from you? 🙂
SeveI'm not aware of any :)
ralphmhrm: “Guus to make contact with the German government with Alex and the help of GeOrG”
GuusI followed up on that with "that's Ralph, not me" (or something to that extend)
Nÿcomy mistake, sorry
ralphmI'll fix the heads on the item
GuusAs you wrote last week:
> Sure. As I mentioned before, we have one German citizen as Director: Alex. I could work with him and Ge0rG?
Guusyour head is on it 🙂
Nÿcowait, who's the minute taker?
Alexhappy to do so
ralphmAlex: the minutes or the regulation thing?
Nÿcook, I'll one minute not more 😉
ralphmAlex: we aren't really sure how to proceed, so any help welcome.
Guusralphm looking at Trello, you're now volunteering Nyco and me for this, while you volunteered for it last week. I don't want to spend time on this in the near future myself, to much balls in the air at this moment.
Alexbut Mrs Barley announced to resign from her current German position this Sunday when we have elections, and take on some duties in Brussels in the European parlament
ralphmGuus: I've just read the minutes, if I remembered incorrectly, I'll pick it back up again
ralphm2. XMPP Testimonials
GuusYou remembered incorrectly, and the minutes are incorrect. See http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/2019-05-16?p=h#2019-05-16-f84f17240717ef3d
ralphmGuus: this _was_ yours, right?
GuusI've drafted a text for this earlier today, that Nyco OK'd just now
GuusI'll send it out right after the meeting.
Ge0rGLuckily we've had two weeks to talk to Ms Barley before the election.
Ge0rGralphm: I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me that I'm allowed to.
Guusplease use sarcasm markup when applied in meeting.
ralphmyeah, that's not cool
ralphmI thought the minutes were clear that we wanted to work with you and Alex on this.
Ge0rGMy reading of the channel log was that Alex was promoted to take the initiative.
ralphmWell, since we're all guessing here, let's make it clear:
ralphmGe0rG: we'd love to understand how to move forward, the reason I asked Alex is because he is a Director of the XSF
ralphmbut we totally want to have you help us figure out how to do things
ralphmDoes that unblock you?
Ge0rGralphm: alright. I would attempt to call the respective ministry. They already responded to an inquiry by Freie Messenger, so I might obtain direct contact info. There was also a FOIA request that's still pending
ralphmFreedom Of Information Act
Ge0rGralphm: no. I'd actually rather improvise my steps than coordinate each one with The Board.
ralphmGe0rG: in that case, what is your goal and your strategy?
AlexGe0rG: I don't have the time currently to lead the initiative. But I am happy to help whenever I can
Ge0rGralphm: my goal is to establish a contact with somebody who's competent at the technical or legislative level for that context, and to offer support to them.
GuusI'd be happy with Ge0rG acting autonomous to a degree, given a defined mandate.
Ge0rGralphm: my strategy is to use my telephone and email client for that
Guuswhat would the 'support' that you offer entail exactly?
Ge0rGMaybe that wasn't obvious from my initial mail, but I considered that as the only viable way to move forward given what we know right now.
Ge0rGGuus: wherever I would be entitled to do. Do we have an agenda?
Ge0rGI suppose it would be some kind of consulting / lobbying.
ralphmGe0rG: we're not trying to tie you down here with silly questions. If you are acting on behalf of the Board of the Corporation, we'd like to understand what you want to achieve and how.
Ge0rGSorry, I've got to run into the reallife now.
NÿcoXMPP is real life!
SeveAlso get updated on what is going on, next steps, etc.
Ge0rGralphm: I understand. Asking me those things two weeks ago would have been appropriate.
GuusMaybe the goal would be to define together what kind of 'support' we could offer?
Ge0rGGuus: this is a goal for Board? Or rather for the initial Dialoge?
Ge0rGGuus: this is a goal for Board? Or rather for the initial dialogue?
Guusthe initial dialogue. I was suggesting to work with them to define what would benefit both parties most.
Ge0rG& # will read up what you've decided
Guusas far as I'm concerned, you could do that solo / with Alex, and report back to board when concrete commitments need to be made.
ralphm3. Tigase as Sponsor
Guusdone/dusted, I think?
ralphmTigase has responded to my inquiry and they are Gold sponsor for 2019!
Guusmaybe do some more exposure on htis?
SeveThank you Tigase! :)
ralphmGuus and I updated the website to reflect this.
ralphmGuus: yes, it would be good to e.g. mention this on Twitter
Nÿcoand the newsletter
Nÿco(I'll add something in AOB)
NÿcoI'll suggest the entry in the newsletter
ralphm4. Compliance Badges
Guusnyco, you're comms - could you take care of this please?
ralphmI saw three batches of badges
Guusthank you 🙂
GuusI sent out the promised call for feedback only this morning
ralphmyep, thanks for that!
Guus(none for me)
Nÿcoso, as founder and CEO, I'd like Nayego to be a sponsor of the XSF, but we got no money so far, can we arrange anything?
MattJWhat kind of arrangement would you propose?
Nÿcoany kind of contribution
GuusDo you have a concrete proposal? I'm struggling to think of something
Nÿcomarketing, social media, maybe
SeveI think it would be better if you could propose something that we could discuss upon
SeveI can't think of anything right now.
ralphmbut thanks for the suggestion!
ralphm6. Date of Next
ralphmNext week is Ascension and a holiday in .nl
GuusI'll not be here +1w
ralphmShall we reconvene +2W?
Guusactually, I won't be here +2w either
Guusor very unlikely, at best.
ralphmWell, that's too bad, we'll manage without Guus?
ralphm+2W it is
SeveThank you all :)!
Nÿcominutes sent, please review and correct where I'm wrong
GuusNÿco thanks - maybe include a reference that Board OK'ed Alex/Georg to act with a degree of autonomy, with the goal of establishing a relation and defining with the German government what a good set of goals / mutual benefits would be.
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Ge0rGThank you very much for entrusting me. I am just a little bit sad that we didn't manage to get this far the two weeks before.
Ge0rGAlex: I'll try to find the contact details and establish first contact some time early next week.
Ge0rGThe timing is not perfect because Barley will most probably be hung over from the Sunday election results, one way or the other. I hope that the working level employees of the ministry won't be.
Ge0rGNow I should disappear again before this ends up as a colossal German politics rant.
GuusI'm looking forward for you to impress us with more speedy results than what board has achieved here, Ge0rG ! 🙂
Ge0rGGuus: don't count on me making the German government move faster
Ge0rGAlbeit, with all the money I'm giving them...
GuusNo no, you dug this hole for yourself. No excuses! 🙂