XSF Discussion - 2019-05-24


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  53. Seve

    > Seems we kinda forgot about https://opendiscussionday.org/ That's very sad :(

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  168. pdurbin

    I wonder if Mozilla is looking at XMPP as a replacement for IRC. See https://ahal.ca/blog/2019/fragmented-communication/

  169. Seve

    Thank you for sharing pdurbin, I will try to take a look at it. KDE moved to Matrix instead.

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  172. MattJ

    I personally wouldn't mind if they did choose Matrix (or XMPP)

  173. MattJ

    Both protocols are modern, open and decentralized, and that's what I care about most

  174. MattJ

    The XMPP<->Matrix bridge exists, but still needs some work, I'm sure it will only improve if Matrix expands

  175. pep.

    if it's interesting enough for Matrix to do so**, which entirely depends on us

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  177. pep.

    (which is fine)

  178. MattJ

    True

  179. Seve

    Wouldn't they work on the bridge if XMPP gets more popular than Matrix

  180. pep.

    Seve, yes that's what I said

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  202. Ge0rG

    Or, controversial idea ahead, somebody from our community volunteers to improve the bridge.

  203. pep.

    Why do the work when we can get people to do it for us? :-°

  204. waqas

    Is this defined work, e.g., a bunch of github tickets or whatever, or is turning this into a project part of the work?

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  207. pep.

    It's like Daniel didn't write OMEMO implementations in every clients, client devs implemented it :)

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  213. moparisthebest

    Seve, "if XMPP gets more popular than Matrix" uh hasn't it always been?

  214. Seve

    :)

  215. moparisthebest

    seriously though? I tend to think XMPP has to have far more servers/users, just because it's older if nothing else

  216. Zash

    How did bridges evolve in the XMPP world?

  217. Zash

    moparisthebest: Aske Epic and NATO

  218. Zash

    moparisthebest: Ask Epic and NATO

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  224. thomas

    sd

  225. thomas

    alameyo

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  227. MattJ

    thomas, can we help you?

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  231. Guus

    Zash: we actually _should_ be asking Epic and NATO - hence my emailed request the other day.

  232. thomas

    no thanks

  233. thomas

    i just have a try

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  240. Zash

    Guus: So, how would we do that?

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  246. Guus

    contact your friends in Nato, tell them about XMPP, ask if they want to showcase their usage through a testimonial, and if they're interested in working together more in the future.

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  252. Zash

    Yeah, I'm so well-connected with NATO

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  256. Guus

    Epic then. 🙂

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  267. Anderson

    a

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  289. Ge0rG

    I'd also love to see a story about GCP

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  300. mondstern

    i am one of the new xmpp dresden meetup and wanted to ask how to log in to a wiki xmpp account. thanks a lot.

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  303. pep.

    https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sysops

  304. pep.

    Then it depends on availability of these people

  305. pep.

    usually it's instant once you manage to get them :)

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  307. Zash

    To login you would go to https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Special:UserLogin but as pep. notes you need a sysop to create you an account first

  308. pep.

    (note that they're also all available in this room)

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  310. Ge0rG

    (also note that the process is much faster if you provide the required information with your question)

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  313. mondstern

    in sysops it says that i should go to another muc and then ask again, right? so e.g. GeOrG hear in the muc in the other muc ask

  314. Zash

    Probably prefectly doable to ask here

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  319. Ge0rG

    mondstern: you can ask here or via PM. It would be better anyway because I'm not joined to the other muc from my mobile client.

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  322. Ge0rG

    I need an alias command for the second half of the Sysops page, apparently.

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