XSF Discussion - 2019-05-24

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04:50:37 Seve > Seems we kinda forgot about https://opendiscussionday.org/ That's very sad :(
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11:49:01 pdurbin I wonder if Mozilla is looking at XMPP as a replacement for IRC. See https://ahal.ca/blog/2019/fragmented-communication/
11:54:43 Seve Thank you for sharing pdurbin, I will try to take a look at it. KDE moved to Matrix instead.
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11:58:06 MattJ I personally wouldn't mind if they did choose Matrix (or XMPP)
11:58:26 MattJ Both protocols are modern, open and decentralized, and that's what I care about most
11:59:08 MattJ The XMPP<->Matrix bridge exists, but still needs some work, I'm sure it will only improve if Matrix expands
12:02:08 pep. if it's interesting enough for Matrix to do so**, which entirely depends on us
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12:02:34 pep. (which is fine)
12:03:06 MattJ True
12:03:15 Seve Wouldn't they work on the bridge if XMPP gets more popular than Matrix
12:03:26 pep. Seve, yes that's what I said
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12:52:45 Ge0rG Or, controversial idea ahead, somebody from our community volunteers to improve the bridge.
12:53:41 pep. Why do the work when we can get people to do it for us? :-°
12:53:51 waqas Is this defined work, e.g., a bunch of github tickets or whatever, or is turning this into a project part of the work?
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12:55:09 pep. It's like Daniel didn't write OMEMO implementations in every clients, client devs implemented it :)
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12:59:26 moparisthebest Seve, "if XMPP gets more popular than Matrix" uh hasn't it always been?
13:00:15 Seve :)
13:01:03 moparisthebest seriously though? I tend to think XMPP has to have far more servers/users, just because it's older if nothing else
13:01:04 Zash How did bridges evolve in the XMPP world?
13:01:33 Zash moparisthebest: Aske Epic and NATO
13:01:41 Zash moparisthebest: Ask Epic and NATO
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13:18:05 MattJ thomas, can we help you?
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13:22:16 Guus Zash: we actually _should_ be asking Epic and NATO - hence my emailed request the other day.
13:23:18 thomas no thanks
13:23:27 thomas i just have a try
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13:43:31 Zash Guus: So, how would we do that?
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13:54:45 Guus contact your friends in Nato, tell them about XMPP, ask if they want to showcase their usage through a testimonial, and if they're interested in working together more in the future.
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14:14:27 Zash Yeah, I'm so well-connected with NATO
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14:19:43 Guus Epic then. 🙂
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15:16:05 Ge0rG I'd also love to see a story about GCP
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15:33:24 mondstern i am one of the new xmpp dresden meetup and wanted to ask how to log in to a wiki xmpp account. thanks a lot.
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15:34:57 pep. https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sysops
15:35:09 pep. Then it depends on availability of these people
15:35:23 pep. usually it's instant once you manage to get them :)
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15:36:05 Zash To login you would go to https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Special:UserLogin but as pep. notes you need a sysop to create you an account first
15:36:55 pep. (note that they're also all available in this room)
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15:39:04 Ge0rG (also note that the process is much faster if you provide the required information with your question)
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15:43:42 mondstern in sysops it says that i should go to another muc and then ask again, right? so e.g. GeOrG hear in the muc in the other muc ask
15:45:44 Zash Probably prefectly doable to ask here
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15:53:16 Ge0rG mondstern: you can ask here or via PM. It would be better anyway because I'm not joined to the other muc from my mobile client.
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16:03:46 Ge0rG I need an alias command for the second half of the Sysops page, apparently.
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