XSF Discussion - 2019-06-10

are there different ways to joina MUC?

We have this issue: https://github.com/profanity-im/profanity/issues/1120

And I don't quite understand why Profanity is able to autojoins on two test channels on my server, but not on the channel at dismail

all channels are public and not password protected

There are two ways to join a MUC, the ancient way and the correct way

Prosody recently stopped accepting the ancient way

May be related, or may not

the issue only happens on reconnect after connection loss. otherwise it joins just fine

The ancient way gets confused for a status update easily, which often results in weirdness on reconnect.

could it still be related?

are both ways described in https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html ?

Yes, it could still be related, if profanity isn't actually rejoining the room but just sending a presence update

i think it does that :)

where can i read about how to do it right?

Used to be that the wrong way was the first thing you saw if you went to the 'Entering a Room' section.

You would know if in the rooms it "successfully" rejoins you often have people missing from the occupant list, for example

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#enter is how to do it correctly

thanks guys

the channels that work use prosody 0.10.3 btw, does this still support the "old way" ?

0.10.2 sorry

Yes, it was dropped in 0.11.x

alright, thanks!

Where a status update can get confused for a join just as easily as a join gets confused for a status update.

Hi, https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/by4ipr/android_now_forces_apps_to_include_proprietary/ ==> it will be a problem with GPL clients, which means, if I'm not mistaken, all OMEMO clients.

yeah. Conversations already deals with that apparently. As in, they don't buy-in and they're flagged as "inefficient battery usage"

So that they get bullied by their users I guess

ralphm, could you add the blog's of our GSoC students to planet.jabber.org? Thee feed links are listed at https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/GSoC/2019/Accepted_Projects

What is hrxi's full name?

Oh, could you also add me while you're at it, please :) Maxime Buquet / https://bouah.net, I think I asked a while ago

pep.: done

Thanks

ralphm, does that work properly?

The link on my name points to the planet

I think it breaks on your link rel="self"

that is really weird

Wait where's the feed?

(the link, not that it breaks)

https://bouah.net/index.xml

<link rel="alternate" type="application/atom" href="https://bouah.net/index.xml" title="Grumpy pep." />

Firefox doesn't think there is a feed

pep.: I mean the link in the atom feed

oh

hmm.

`<link rel="self" href="https://bouah.net/"/>` ?

yeah, that's not ok

because it is not true

That should point to the feed?

yes, and also have a type

k, let me see how that works

Do I actually need this <link/>?

You are not linking to the correct location for the atom feed

also unsure why you want to include a link to the html rendering

also the type should be application/xml+atom

so many bugs in one thing

indeed

flow: did you see my question above?

Okay, should be fixed!

pep.: hmm, maybe it does need an alternate link

(next to the fixed self one)

to text/html ?

Ok I added it manually for now if you want to test again

pep., it’s application/atom+xml, not application/xml+atom.

oops. At least now it's fixed :)

ralphm, I believe hrxi does not want his full name disclosed/mentioned, but I could ask if its an issue

flow: oh.