XSF Discussion - 2019-06-10

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12:56:14 jubalh are there different ways to joina MUC?
12:56:21 jubalh We have this issue: https://github.com/profanity-im/profanity/issues/1120
12:56:53 jubalh And I don't quite understand why Profanity is able to autojoins on two test channels on my server, but not on the channel at dismail
12:57:02 jubalh all channels are public and not password protected
12:57:51 MattJ There are two ways to join a MUC, the ancient way and the correct way
12:58:09 MattJ Prosody recently stopped accepting the ancient way
12:58:21 MattJ May be related, or may not
12:58:42 jubalh the issue only happens on reconnect after connection loss. otherwise it joins just fine
12:58:45 Zash The ancient way gets confused for a status update easily, which often results in weirdness on reconnect.
12:58:51 jubalh could it still be related?
12:59:28 jubalh are both ways described in https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html ?
12:59:41 MattJ Yes, it could still be related, if profanity isn't actually rejoining the room but just sending a presence update
13:00:01 jubalh i think it does that :)
13:00:14 jubalh where can i read about how to do it right?
13:00:14 Zash Used to be that the wrong way was the first thing you saw if you went to the 'Entering a Room' section.
13:00:15 MattJ You would know if in the rooms it "successfully" rejoins you often have people missing from the occupant list, for example
13:01:18 MattJ https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#enter is how to do it correctly
13:01:43 jubalh thanks guys
13:01:57 jubalh the channels that work use prosody 0.10.3 btw, does this still support the "old way" ?
13:02:07 jubalh 0.10.2 sorry
13:02:08 MattJ Yes, it was dropped in 0.11.x
13:02:24 jubalh alright, thanks!
13:03:05 Zash Where a status update can get confused for a join just as easily as a join gets confused for a status update.
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15:01:09 goffi Hi, https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/by4ipr/android_now_forces_apps_to_include_proprietary/ ==> it will be a problem with GPL clients, which means, if I'm not mistaken, all OMEMO clients.
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15:05:49 pep. yeah. Conversations already deals with that apparently. As in, they don't buy-in and they're flagged as "inefficient battery usage"
15:06:14 pep. So that they get bullied by their users I guess
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15:31:39 flow ralphm, could you add the blog's of our GSoC students to planet.jabber.org? Thee feed links are listed at https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/GSoC/2019/Accepted_Projects
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16:31:53 ralphm What is hrxi's full name?
16:34:11 pep. Oh, could you also add me while you're at it, please :) Maxime Buquet / https://bouah.net, I think I asked a while ago
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16:39:43 ralphm pep.: done
16:39:50 pep. Thanks
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16:42:00 pep. ralphm, does that work properly?
16:42:15 pep. The link on my name points to the planet
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16:43:44 ralphm I think it breaks on your link rel="self"
16:43:54 ralphm that is really weird
16:44:40 Zash Wait where's the feed?
16:44:44 ralphm (the link, not that it breaks)
16:44:46 pep. https://bouah.net/index.xml
16:44:55 pep. <link rel="alternate" type="application/atom" href="https://bouah.net/index.xml" title="Grumpy pep." />
16:44:59 Zash Firefox doesn't think there is a feed
16:45:21 ralphm pep.: I mean the link in the atom feed
16:45:29 pep. oh
16:45:31 pep. hmm.
16:45:37 Zash `<link rel="self" href="https://bouah.net/"/>` ?
16:45:44 ralphm yeah, that's not ok
16:45:50 ralphm because it is not true
16:46:15 pep. That should point to the feed?
16:47:13 ralphm yes, and also have a type
16:47:27 pep. k, let me see how that works
16:49:24 pep. Do I actually need this <link/>?
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16:53:36 ralphm You are not linking to the correct location for the atom feed
16:53:51 ralphm also unsure why you want to include a link to the html rendering
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16:54:31 ralphm also the type should be application/xml+atom
16:54:40 ralphm so many bugs in one thing
16:55:20 pep. indeed
16:55:37 ralphm flow: did you see my question above?
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17:07:40 pep. Okay, should be fixed!
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17:11:08 ralphm pep.: hmm, maybe it does need an alternate link
17:11:16 ralphm (next to the fixed self one)
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17:12:01 pep. to text/html ?
17:12:48 pep. Ok I added it manually for now if you want to test again
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18:27:02 Link Mauve pep., it’s application/atom+xml, not application/xml+atom.
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18:32:35 pep. oops. At least now it's fixed :)
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19:43:25 flow ralphm, I believe hrxi does not want his full name disclosed/mentioned, but I could ask if its an issue
19:45:22 ralphm flow: oh.
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