XSF Discussion - 2019-07-09

Ok can someone tell me the adress of the jdev room

its not listed here for whatever reason

https://search.jabbercat.org/

jdev@conference.jabber.org

yeah my converse is not joining that room..

damn either i broke converse or this room is buggy

no i think the server is down

lovetox_, (a) conference.jabber.org has an insecure SSL setup rejected by modern libssl

either that or it doesnt allow connection with my server

(b) conference.jabber.org has MUCs which have invalid JIDs

both are reasons why no rooms from conference.jabber.org are listed on search.jabbercat.org

and (a) is probably the reason you can’t join

(and (a) is the reason why I’m not in there anymore)

ah yeah thats the server with the 18.000 rooms

> jdev@conference.jabber.org/jonas’: cancel: Server-to-server connection failed: Connecting failed: ssl handshake error: dh key too small

ok, so what about moving this room, to muc.xmpp.org? seems nobody cares about this server much with all the invalid rooms and stuff

also no mam on jabber.org if i remember correctly

either this or xsf rooms will get more and more used for dev talk

what about replacing jabber.org with a modern implementation? ;)

We'd need to upgrade jabber.org's M-Link to add new stuff (like MAM), and that's not a particularly good use of time as Peter's migrating to Prosody.

I heard rumors that somebody™ is working on fixing up jabber.org, but there’s no timeline ✏

But I don't know how progress is going on that.

I've heard rumors that conference.jabber.org returns invalid XML on disco#items

Ge0rG, not invalid XML, just invalid XEP-0045

so are you saying peter is in charge of that?

Yeah, a left-over from the ejabberd migration.

maybe we could ask for a timeline

Yes, Peter's ultimately in charge of jabber.org

I guess only reachable via email? or is he around here sometime

rarely

jonas’: can we agree on "invalid 6120"?

Ge0rG, no

6120 does not prescribe that @node of a disco item must be a JID

that’s XEP-0045

oh wait, it’s not @node, it’s @jid, so actually invalid XEP-0030

jonas’: I suppose I can agree on that

Ok i send peter an email, lets see what he will answer

lovetox_, worse than xsf@ becoming more dev-y is that there’s now a silent fragmentation between those who are in jdev@ and those who can’t join it

yes

I'm going to share my cookie recipes in jdev@ only now.

:(

> State is more important than Events