XSF Discussion - 2019-07-12


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  145. Ge0rG

    we need to mandate this for Avatars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Portable_Graphics 😁

  146. jonas’

    > Fabrice Bellard

  147. jonas’

    I’m on board

  148. jonas’

    and of course he wrote a decoder in JavaScript.

  149. jonas’

    and of course they wrote a decoder in JavaScript.

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  151. Ge0rG

    And you most probably can pipe the compressed data through your hardware HEVC decoder

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  170. lovetox

    seems peter is not answering by email

  171. lovetox

    ok maybe i give him another week, maybe he is on holiday or something :)

  172. lovetox

    jonas’, why is the HTTP API discouraged for search.jabbercat.org ?

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  178. Ge0rG

    lovetox: it's harder to rate limit

  179. Ge0rG

    And easier to abuse.

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  181. Daniel

    Not that xmpp is particularly easy to rate limit...

  182. Ge0rG

    I've opted for the xmpp api for yaxim, with a bot serving a cache of the data on yax.im, Daniel opted to use the HTTP api so he doesn't leak users' JIDs but instead IPs

  183. lovetox

    yeah i will implement both but default to the http

  184. Daniel

    Also those databases queries should be dirt cheap. I don't really understand the worry about rate limiting

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  186. Ge0rG

    Something something full text search

  187. Daniel

    I mean every word press blog is more expansive for a db and you usually don't rate limit that

  188. lovetox

    a plus for the xmpp api is, i dont have to deal with proxy

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  191. Ge0rG

    Daniel: this is also why wordpress completely melts down if you happen to be mentioned on any news aggregator

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  194. jonas’

    Daniel, it’s just a precaution

  195. jonas’

    I don’t expect to have to do any type of fun rate limiting outside of specific attacks, but I like to have thought about that.

  196. jonas’

    lovetox, downside of XMPP is, the server sees the user’s JID + their search terms

  197. jonas’

    with HTTP, it only sees the users IP + search terms

  198. jonas’

    make of that what you will :)

  199. pep.

    Technically a client could use an sasl anonymous connection to do the query :-°

  200. jonas’

    I could offer that indeed.

  201. jonas’

    most SASL ANON services won’t let you s2s

  202. jonas’

    for obvious reasons

  203. lovetox

    and has much overhead

  204. jonas’

    that, too

  205. jonas’

    I could do things like use a HMAC’d part of the IP prefix as the local part to do rate limiting through that or something

  206. jonas’

    anyways, gotta run

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  290. stpeter

    One of my recent projects: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2019/07/add-ons-outage-post-mortem-result/

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  304. lovetox

    hey stpeter hello, i wrote you an email some days ago regarding the state of the jabber.org server, did you receive it?

  305. ralphm

    stpeter: thanks for the link. Keep up the good work!

  306. stpeter

    I did! Now I just need to reply. $dayjob is bleeding into $eveningjob these days.

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  309. ralphm

    Ouch

  310. stpeter

    This is my job. ;-)

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  336. Guus

    stpeter: please implement fast-forward functionality in video calling

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  339. ralphm

    Haha

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  345. Ge0rG

    You'd become rich and famous. Or you'd have been killed by the time travel police.

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  394. eevvoor

    Has anybody used elasticsearch's XMPP plugins already?

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