XSF Discussion - 2019-07-12

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12:38:57 Ge0rG we need to mandate this for Avatars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Portable_Graphics 😁
12:42:43 jonas’ > Fabrice Bellard
12:42:44 jonas’ I’m on board
12:43:28 jonas’ ~~and of course he wrote a decoder in JavaScript.~~ ✎
12:43:41 jonas’ and of course they wrote a decoder in JavaScript. ✏
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12:55:01 Ge0rG And you most probably can pipe the compressed data through your hardware HEVC decoder
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13:27:11 lovetox seems peter is not answering by email
13:27:58 lovetox ok maybe i give him another week, maybe he is on holiday or something :)
13:28:31 lovetox jonas’, why is the HTTP API discouraged for search.jabbercat.org ?
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13:48:42 Ge0rG lovetox: it's harder to rate limit
13:48:50 Ge0rG And easier to abuse.
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13:49:48 Daniel Not that xmpp is particularly easy to rate limit...
13:49:53 Ge0rG I've opted for the xmpp api for yaxim, with a bot serving a cache of the data on yax.im, Daniel opted to use the HTTP api so he doesn't leak users' JIDs but instead IPs
13:50:30 lovetox yeah i will implement both but default to the http
13:50:54 Daniel Also those databases queries should be dirt cheap. I don't really understand the worry about rate limiting
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13:51:17 Ge0rG Something something full text search
13:51:22 Daniel I mean every word press blog is more expansive for a db and you usually don't rate limit that
13:52:25 lovetox a plus for the xmpp api is, i dont have to deal with proxy
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13:53:36 Ge0rG Daniel: this is also why wordpress completely melts down if you happen to be mentioned on any news aggregator
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14:00:10 jonas’ Daniel, it’s just a precaution
14:00:32 jonas’ I don’t expect to have to do any type of fun rate limiting outside of specific attacks, but I like to have thought about that.
14:00:55 jonas’ lovetox, downside of XMPP is, the server sees the user’s JID + their search terms
14:01:02 jonas’ with HTTP, it only sees the users IP + search terms
14:01:07 jonas’ make of that what you will :)
14:02:29 pep. Technically a client could use an sasl anonymous connection to do the query :-°
14:02:50 jonas’ I could offer that indeed.
14:02:57 jonas’ most SASL ANON services won’t let you s2s
14:03:02 jonas’ for obvious reasons
14:03:28 lovetox and has much overhead
14:03:36 jonas’ that, too
14:03:38 jonas’ I could do things like use a HMAC’d part of the IP prefix as the local part to do rate limiting through that or something
14:03:40 jonas’ anyways, gotta run
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17:28:50 stpeter One of my recent projects: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2019/07/add-ons-outage-post-mortem-result/
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17:51:44 lovetox hey stpeter hello, i wrote you an email some days ago regarding the state of the jabber.org server, did you receive it?
17:52:19 ralphm stpeter: thanks for the link. Keep up the good work!
17:52:22 stpeter I did! Now I just need to reply. $dayjob is bleeding into $eveningjob these days.
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17:56:53 ralphm Ouch
17:57:14 stpeter This is my job. ;-)
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19:08:16 Guus stpeter: please implement fast-forward functionality in video calling
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19:11:13 ralphm Haha
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19:24:19 Ge0rG You'd become rich and famous. Or you'd have been killed by the time travel police.
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21:37:23 eevvoor Has anybody used elasticsearch's XMPP plugins already?
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