XSF Discussion - 2019-08-10

last reminder for the Q3 application period: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q3_2019 Travis, Severino and Emmanuel

Link Mauve, ^

moparisthebest, ^

when do you have to reapply? every three months?

year

ah thx pep.

Alex: there is a new jdev room now.

Ge0rG: which Jid? can you invite me?

jdev@muc.xmpp.org

xmpp:jdev@muc.xmpp.org?join

Is there anything for donations to the foundation? As a user/single interested party

Nothing formal currently.

So I edited my MUC bookmarks with gajim, and now it appears that this caused the tab number in poezio to change, which affects my UX since I am used to e.g. xsf@ being tab 2. Of course I could potentially configure poezio to place xsf@ always on 2. But this all made me wonder: Do we want to introduce an order to bookmarks?

I thought poezio join order was basically random? There's a plugin that saves and restores the order called 'reorder'

Zash, random as in how the bookmarks are ordered in the received xml probably?

Quite possibly

hmm hows it with the extensibility of bookmarks2, do the authors envision to register and add additional parameters to the conference? If so, the tab/window number could be one of those

flow, i dont think its worth it

it would be if almost all clients would have the same UX ideas about how to display conversations for ex. in tabs

flow, yeah I never relied on the order bookmarks are loaded in, I use reorder for what I care about, the rest I can /w

One thing that you could do, independant of bookmarks, is have some kind of client configuration in PEP

Where you'd store that reorder configuration (somewhat modified probably)

having* some kind of

yeah i would find this the better idea

than to burder all clients with saving stuff they never need

Same problem as trying to store extended stuff in rosters

thanks Alex and pep.

pep., your Editor resume needs to go to Board

they need to approve your team membership

Yup, and I'll then put it on next week's agenda

Please

I probably won't be available during the board meeting, I'll be available after the 20th (when I get to Camp)

That's fine.

i think it would be nice if the room avatar hash is in the disco info of a room

presence is fine, but to make this really nice i would want a way to get the avatar before joining the muc

presence is fine to anounce a change

would a room allow me to request the avatar of the room if im not joined?

but its vcard so probably it should

xmpp.net is really slow :/

lovetox: I suspect that the database has a lot of crap in it, slowing it down

It was doing checks based in crawlers, so it was feeding the database with new rows constantly, for years.

I'd be interested to see if we can clean that out.

yeah seems like the about page loads fast

but thats it :D

Mattj, is it in your power to backup/wipe that database?

delete old results or somesuch?

Wfm

Guus: technically yes, can't likely look at it till Monday though, and you may have to remind me

And did we ever add that index?

We did, I think

No rush though

Now comming again to the Logo thing... I found https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/xmpp.org-theme/static/images/xmpp-logo.svg but I did not find any License in the repo.... so under what License is this file? Or isn't it under a license?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:XMPP_logo.svg

That references a license

Guus, I know this one but there is not the exact MIT... just that it uses MIT

Oh no I see wat you mean

So yeah I should use thisone

And pray that whoever edited the Wikipedia page did their research.

Ge0rG, yeah... but I'll cooperate if XFS has Problems with my usage of the Logo...

I remember that the subject of the logo license came up in a board meeting a while ago, but I forgot the resolution.

Ge0rG, no problem

Maybe it's mentioned in some board meeting minutes then?

> 4. Tigase logo use > No discussion Mhm?

Check the MUC logs

I went to grep through the website repo, didn't see anything obvious about the logo license there either.

https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/website-credits.html popped up

https://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/2019-06-07?p=h#2019-06-07-e0253b1685dc7a43 > Wojtek "ralphm: regarding xmpp logo usage - I approached Nyco with the question just to make sure it's ok to use it on our pages, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:XMPP_logo.svg states it's MIT so basically the answer is that yes, we can "

Hm

https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/ipr-policy seems to say that it only applies to XEPs

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