XSF Discussion - 2019-08-10

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  113. Alex

    last reminder for the Q3 application period: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q3_2019 Travis, Severino and Emmanuel

  114. pep.

    Link Mauve, ^

  115. pep.

    moparisthebest, ^

  116. eevvoor

    when do you have to reapply? every three months?

  117. pep.


  118. eevvoor

    ah thx pep.

  119. Ge0rG

    Alex: there is a new jdev room now.

  120. Alex

    Ge0rG: which Jid? can you invite me?

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  149. pep.

    Is there anything for donations to the foundation? As a user/single interested party

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  151. ralphm

    Nothing formal currently.

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  175. flow

    So I edited my MUC bookmarks with gajim, and now it appears that this caused the tab number in poezio to change, which affects my UX since I am used to e.g. xsf@ being tab 2. Of course I could potentially configure poezio to place xsf@ always on 2. But this all made me wonder: Do we want to introduce an order to bookmarks?

  176. Zash

    I thought poezio join order was basically random? There's a plugin that saves and restores the order called 'reorder'

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  178. flow

    Zash, random as in how the bookmarks are ordered in the received xml probably?

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  180. Zash

    Quite possibly

  181. flow

    hmm hows it with the extensibility of bookmarks2, do the authors envision to register and add additional parameters to the conference? If so, the tab/window number could be one of those

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  184. lovetox

    flow, i dont think its worth it

  185. lovetox

    it would be if almost all clients would have the same UX ideas about how to display conversations for ex. in tabs

  186. pep.

    flow, yeah I never relied on the order bookmarks are loaded in, I use reorder for what I care about, the rest I can /w

  187. pep.

    One thing that you could do, independant of bookmarks, is have some kind of client configuration in PEP

  188. pep.

    Where you'd store that reorder configuration (somewhat modified probably)

  189. pep.

    having* some kind of

  190. lovetox

    yeah i would find this the better idea

  191. lovetox

    than to burder all clients with saving stuff they never need

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  193. Zash

    Same problem as trying to store extended stuff in rosters

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  242. moparisthebest

    thanks Alex and pep.

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  286. jonas’

    pep., your Editor resume needs to go to Board

  287. jonas’

    they need to approve your team membership

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  292. ralphm

    Yup, and I'll then put it on next week's agenda

  293. pep.


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  298. pep.

    I probably won't be available during the board meeting, I'll be available after the 20th (when I get to Camp)

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  304. ralphm

    That's fine.

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  326. lovetox

    i think it would be nice if the room avatar hash is in the disco info of a room

  327. lovetox

    presence is fine, but to make this really nice i would want a way to get the avatar before joining the muc

  328. lovetox

    presence is fine to anounce a change

  329. lovetox

    would a room allow me to request the avatar of the room if im not joined?

  330. lovetox

    but its vcard so probably it should

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  333. lovetox

    xmpp.net is really slow :/

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  335. Guus

    lovetox: I suspect that the database has a lot of crap in it, slowing it down

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  337. Guus

    It was doing checks based in crawlers, so it was feeding the database with new rows constantly, for years.

  338. Guus

    I'd be interested to see if we can clean that out.

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  340. lovetox

    yeah seems like the about page loads fast

  341. lovetox

    but thats it :D

  342. Guus

    Mattj, is it in your power to backup/wipe that database?

  343. Zash

    delete old results or somesuch?

  344. Guus


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  346. MattJ

    Guus: technically yes, can't likely look at it till Monday though, and you may have to remind me

  347. MattJ

    And did we ever add that index?

  348. Guus

    We did, I think

  349. Guus

    No rush though

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  355. j.r

    Now comming again to the Logo thing... I found https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/xmpp.org-theme/static/images/xmpp-logo.svg but I did not find any License in the repo.... so under what License is this file? Or isn't it under a license?

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  358. Guus


  359. Guus

    That references a license

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  362. j.r

    Guus, I know this one but there is not the exact MIT... just that it uses MIT

  363. j.r

    Oh no I see wat you mean

  364. j.r

    So yeah I should use thisone

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  366. Ge0rG

    And pray that whoever edited the Wikipedia page did their research.

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  368. j.r

    Ge0rG, yeah... but I'll cooperate if XFS has Problems with my usage of the Logo...

  369. Ge0rG

    I remember that the subject of the logo license came up in a board meeting a while ago, but I forgot the resolution.

  370. j.r

    Ge0rG, no problem

  371. Zash

    Maybe it's mentioned in some board meeting minutes then?

  372. Zash

    > 4. Tigase logo use > No discussion Mhm?

  373. Ge0rG

    Check the MUC logs

  374. Zash

    I went to grep through the website repo, didn't see anything obvious about the logo license there either.

  375. Zash

    https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/website-credits.html popped up

  376. Zash

    https://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/2019-06-07?p=h#2019-06-07-e0253b1685dc7a43 > Wojtek "ralphm: regarding xmpp logo usage - I approached Nyco with the question just to make sure it's ok to use it on our pages, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:XMPP_logo.svg states it's MIT so basically the answer is that yes, we can "

  377. Zash


  378. Zash

    https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/ipr-policy seems to say that it only applies to XEPs

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