XSF Discussion - 2019-08-18

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11:16:33 Daniel lovetox, https://github.com/siacs/Conversations/commit/fddd974412fccecbd88e1302afe77d31ab8329aa
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11:17:09 lovetox great Daniel !
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14:05:33 lovetox something is not clear for the MUC XEP for me
14:05:42 lovetox can a service change my nick while im joined?
14:09:05 Daniel Good question. Probably?
14:09:29 lovetox i dont see an example how this would unfold
14:09:39 Daniel But I doubt they will. People are afraid to even use reassignment on join
14:09:41 lovetox would it send first an unavailable with a 303
14:09:47 lovetox then a available with a 210
14:10:27 lovetox this is needed for stuff like irc transport
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14:10:41 lovetox on IRC you have one nick on the server across all rooms
14:10:50 lovetox if you change your nick in one room its changed in all rooms
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14:11:05 lovetox so the server would have to modify my nick in all other rooms
14:11:14 Daniel Dunno. I know that Conversations would handle the new available presence with both self and reassignment code just fine
14:11:32 Daniel But an unexpected unavailable I would not like
14:11:33 lovetox yeah i see the 210 code just as info
14:11:45 lovetox i dont think i have to do anything special
14:12:16 lovetox Daniel that would be wrong, it would be ok for you
14:12:22 lovetox but not for all other participants
14:12:38 lovetox a nickchange must have a unavailable with 303 and the new nick
14:12:40 lovetox then an available
14:12:51 lovetox it should not matter if the nickchange is initiated by the user or server
14:14:58 Daniel Yeah I guess I can fix it
14:15:29 lovetox i will test this now with biboumi
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14:20:00 Daniel Oh. Mhh I guess I'm handling it
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14:23:33 moparisthebest I don't think biboumi handles this correctly, or conversations, or both
14:24:07 moparisthebest Because I've been /sanick'd on IRC servers and it messed up everything
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14:24:24 moparisthebest It's been awhile though maybe it's fixed
14:25:32 lovetox i have an open issue with biboumi about this
14:25:46 lovetox specially it does not tell you when your nick is modified on join
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14:30:51 Daniel lovetox, wouldn’t be looking at 110 be enough?
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14:31:26 Daniel i mean granted biboumi should add the 210; but just looking at 110 and always assume it's yours should do the trick, no?
14:31:31 lovetox depends, if you take every self presence as a potential nick change by the service
14:31:32 lovetox yes
14:32:17 Daniel i mean what else are you going to do with a potential presence that has 110 but comes from an unexpected full jid
14:32:19 Daniel ignore it?
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14:34:45 lovetox its not handled now
14:34:52 lovetox stuff breaks
14:35:32 lovetox but yes i also thought about this to treat every self presence as a potential nick change
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16:23:04 Ge0rG That would be the most sane thing to do.
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20:14:59 pep. It seems I'm not on the trello board, can anybody add my request(?)/asking to join the editor team? ralphm, Seve, anybody? :)
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20:20:39 ralphm pep.: What's your user name?
20:20:45 pep. where?
20:20:57 ralphm On trello
20:21:03 pep. I don't have an account
20:21:15 ralphm That seems useful
20:21:38 ralphm Oh, wait, I misunderstood
20:22:20 pep. ~~Cool, no need to create an account just yet~~ ✎
20:22:46 pep. Cool, no need to create an account just yet then ✏
20:24:46 ralphm Added
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20:30:26 pep. Thanks
20:30:39 ralphm np
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