XSF Discussion - 2019-08-21

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06:46:45 Ge0rG Also is there any other place handling the details of offline messages than XEP-0160?
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09:49:50 mathieui https://upload.mathieui.net/upload/2ugsHI9wo3dZz3ax/gZ_aLXpFTwynO0dMv9BnKg.jpg \o/
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09:50:16 mathieui (not pictured: the thousands of xmpp logos vastly outnumbering the rest)
09:51:01 pep. https://upload.bouah.net/upload/sKbqFEc7_xvI7Y2P/jl3aqAMGQgeH_q23j7-maw.jpg
09:52:26 Seve Wooow! Nice!!
09:53:20 MattJ Shiny :)
09:54:18 Kev I need a new XMPP logo for my laptop. My new laptop only has a Yoshi.
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10:06:29 ralphm Kev: I have a bunch, could pass them to intosi for you
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10:25:08 Kev If you could spare a half dozen I'd love to have one, and I suspect the rest of the team would like them too, please.
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10:38:38 jonas’ at first I thought that were some baked goods
10:38:43 jonas’ now I’m a bit disappointed
10:40:28 Kev jonas’: https://www.instagram.com/p/B1auefigoR9/ ?
10:41:28 jonas’ luckily I just ate a muffin
10:41:31 jonas’ otherwise I’d be a bit unhappy now
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10:59:39 edhelas now we need xmpp-logo-shaped-muffins 🤔
11:00:06 jonas’ we do!
11:00:21 jonas’ where can I file an issue with the SCAM team?
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11:19:32 mathieui to be fair, an xmpp cookie cutter would be quite awesome
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11:21:25 ralphm I'll put it on the list of ideas.
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13:29:58 pep. Kev, yeah I was planning to distribute most of them to people I can meet here and there. I might take time to ship some if needed (if that doesn't cost me an arm)
13:30:34 pep. ~~s/people/XMPP peopl/~~ ✎
13:30:34 Kev I think Ralph has some he's offered to send via Edwin, but thanks.
13:30:37 pep. s/people/XMPP people/ ✏
13:31:05 pep. jonas’, can we have an xsf/scam repo? :P
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13:31:51 pep. We need more merch tbh. Flyers, stickers, tshirts etc.
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13:39:22 Guus you design them, I'll order them.
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13:50:39 pep. k, I'll have a look :)
13:52:29 Ge0rG > https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2017-August/033123.html is a 401?! It's been over 24h now
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13:55:16 COM8 Where do you get the stickers from? I wanted to order some for the meetup but stickerule is far to expensife for my taste
13:55:28 pep. I did use stickermule
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13:56:07 pep. The XMPP stickers should be covered by the XSF (haven't got any reply from peter yet), the rest is on me
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13:57:11 COM8 ok
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14:13:24 COM8 So would it be possible to get funding for XMPP stickers so I can distribute them during the Bavarian meetup? Or can I buy some from you pep. since buying low quantities is quiet expensive?
14:14:08 pep. I can give you some, sure, that's what I made them for :)
14:14:15 pep. You don't have to pay for them
14:14:31 ralphm I'd like to minimize shipping stuff around, so if you meet people in Germany, maybe you can distribute that way.
14:15:00 pep. Yeah we can maybe arrange that
14:15:18 COM8 👍🏻
14:15:28 ralphm Sneakernet FTW
14:15:42 pep. Shipping might be cheaper though :P
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14:16:18 ralphm Well, if you are having meetups anyway...
14:16:42 COM8 Will always take them with me if I travel so if somebody here sees me can pass them along
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14:17:15 COM8 I'm living between Munich and Stuttgart (South Germany)
14:17:24 pep. hmm
14:18:57 pep. COM8, gsoc mentor meetup is in Munich in October, is that too late?
14:19:41 COM8 No problem I can wait
14:21:03 COM8 Just let me know and I will be there to meet you since I'm in Munich anyway in October
14:22:10 pep. Okay :)
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14:30:38 Daniel Note that the metro fare in Munich from the Google venue to the city center is probably higher than it is to ship a few stickers 🤷‍♂️
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14:31:08 mathieui :D
14:33:52 COM8 Daniel: Semester ticket ;D
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16:49:13 Ge0rG pep.: are those the stickers from FrOSCon? 😉
16:49:48 pep. nah, they're all new stickers
16:50:00 pep. The one you brought were gone during froscon
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17:05:18 Ge0rG Great!
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20:12:26 pep. We just merged MAM support in poezio (madhur.garg's GSoC, congrats!). Feedback welcome :)
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20:13:16 peter Woot!
20:13:26 ralphm nice!
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20:17:25 Guus Awesome!
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20:19:14 Ge0rG Does it actually synchronize all history, or is it just a command interface to fetch things from an archive?
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20:20:30 Ge0rG Because I started implementing MAM last night, and the simple task of getting a seamless linear history on reconnect is anything but simple.
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20:24:05 mathieui Ge0rG, it’s implemented as a pageup in a tab where the entity supports mam
20:24:12 mathieui and it adds messages at the top
20:24:48 mathieui the command interface to fetch things from the archive is the slixmpp mam example :D
20:25:13 Ge0rG How does it interact with the local log file?
20:26:06 mathieui not
20:26:16 mathieui I’m thinking of disabling that file and keeping it for archiving only
20:26:24 mathieui (disabling
20:26:32 mathieui loading from that file
20:26:34 mathieui )
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20:31:21 Ge0rG Say what?
20:32:19 Zash What what
20:38:45 pep. In the *** ✎
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20:49:31 pep. In the **** ✏
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20:56:22 Ge0rG (_._)
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21:13:18 lovetox Ge0rG, is reconnect not the easy thing?
21:13:24 lovetox just request last known stanza-id
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21:13:38 lovetox or what problem do you run into here?
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21:26:26 Ge0rG lovetox: the right order of enabling Carbons, fetching MAM and sending presence. Also maybe 0013?
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22:04:36 lovetox Ge0rG, what is your risk?
22:04:42 lovetox duplicates?
22:06:05 lovetox i dont care for that at all, whatever arrives via MAM will be deduplicated with stanza-id
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22:12:25 lovetox and of course you have to depend on that the users time on his machine is not too much off from the server
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22:29:25 Ge0rG If you do it wrong, you'll get a hole. If you do it right, you "only" get duplicate traffic.
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