XSF Discussion - 2019-09-23

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11:30:43 Link Mauve “10:37:17 lovetox> hm, we need a server component that records caps hashes, and provides statistic on what clients are in use on the server”, we have some at https://stats.jabberfr.org/
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11:30:59 Link Mauve Look at the client identities graph.
11:31:24 Link Mauve Without much surprise, Pidgin is the most used client.
11:31:45 Link Mauve I-don-t-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore.png
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12:05:08 pep. You have been selected for our next trip to mars, welcome!
12:09:02 edhelas https://nl.movim.eu/?about#statistics_tab sur Movim il est loin derrière :D
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12:16:09 Link Mauve Il n’y a que 2,5% d’utilisateurs de Movim sur movim.eu ?
12:16:17 Link Mauve C’est les utilisateurs connectés actuellement ?
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12:40:56 edhelas c'est pas sur movim.eu
12:41:09 edhelas ce sont les presences cachées du pod
12:44:06 Ge0rG Is it possible to get a snapshot of all the connected client caps from prosody?
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12:48:23 edhelas Ge0rG the question is for me ?
12:48:51 Ge0rG edhelas: no, for Link Mauve probably
12:50:14 Zash You would probably need that plugin that you can't use.
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12:56:51 Ge0rG Zash: but it's not sufficient, right?
12:57:58 Zash Don't know what you mean, defer to Link Mauve
12:58:24 Ge0rG have them in RAM != have a way to dump them
12:58:41 Ge0rG also I already asked Link Mauve ;)
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13:51:12 Zash The Hamming distance between "Message Retraction" and "Message Reaction" is too low!
13:51:55 Daniel Yes
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13:53:13 Ge0rG `tr -d [tr]`
13:54:40 edhelas Zash lower than MIX-MUC ?
13:55:40 Zash 2 on both?
13:59:19 Ge0rG also I'm sure you are talking of Levenshtein, not of Hamming.
14:00:43 Zash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamming_distance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenshtein_distance What, both exist?!
14:01:15 Ge0rG yes, but Hamming("Retraction", "Reaction") == ∞
14:04:15 Zash See also - agrep - Damerau–Levenshtein distance - diff - Dynamic time warping
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14:32:58 lovetox amazing, more people use pidgin then conversations :D
14:33:15 MattJ It varies wildly between servers
14:33:45 MattJ As far as I can see servers that have been around a long time have mostly Pidgin, newer servers have mostly Conversations, Movim servers have mostly Movim
14:33:45 Zash Pidgin tends to be in the top very often tho.
14:33:50 lovetox thats why it would be nice if servers would funnel such statistics into another server
14:35:01 Ge0rG lovetox: but GDPR!
14:35:20 Zash Ge0rG said the magic word^W acronym!
14:35:34 Ge0rG I'd like to make a snapshot of the versions of the currently connected clients, but nobody tells me how ;)
14:38:47 Zash It would involve writing code that queries all clients I suppose. Prosody doesn't store that in memory or anywhere normally.
14:39:40 Ge0rG won't it query all clients for caps anyway?
14:39:52 Ge0rG We used to have a mod_query_all_clients_version_on_connect thing
14:40:06 Ge0rG but that's not the same, because it's skewed towards clients with flaky connections
14:40:25 Zash The PEP module does but doesn't save anything but the +notify bits it need.
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14:41:17 lovetox yeah but it would be easy to write a module that just stores that info that comes in because of the pep module
14:42:08 Zash Link Mauve did. But Ge0rG can't use it due to version conflict.
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15:37:32 Link Mauve Ge0rG, it is possible.
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15:37:56 Link Mauve But I have a date shortly, so I’ll defer the oneliner to some other Prosody person.
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15:39:12 Ge0rG Link Mauve: have a nice evening, and let's talk about it tomorrow
15:39:20 Link Mauve Ge0rG, also the module which doesn’t work on 0.11 is the one that automatically answers disco, mod_measure_client_identities shouldn’t have any issue.
15:39:54 Ge0rG Ah! I'm not using the mod_measure framework yet, either :(
15:40:11 Link Mauve Now might be a good time to start using it then. :)
15:40:21 Ge0rG Maybe.
15:40:36 Ge0rG Or maybe I should rather fix the burning issues in two of my Android apps.
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15:41:02 Ge0rG Or maybe I should remove the weeds from my garden first. Oh, priorities!
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23:16:10 yoden hello everyone
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23:16:32 yoden i need some help in here pls
23:17:06 moparisthebest such as?
23:17:18 moparisthebest we can help with any XMPP standards related problem
23:17:25 yoden xmpp to whatsapp is it possible
23:17:44 yoden i have finch
23:17:56 yoden can i msg to whatsapp
23:18:37 moparisthebest a quick search found https://github.com/stv0g/transwhat so I'd say it's certainly possible, don't know if that in particular works
23:18:52 yoden thx so much
23:20:15 yoden i'l give a try
23:21:12 yoden that's all i need thank you mopa
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