XSF Discussion - 2019-10-04

“16:13:14 MattJ> I don't think I have a test account on a server that has websockets atm”, you can create one at jabber.fr, our WebSocket endpoint is listed in our XEP-0156 file and record.

board, thanks, I’ll fix the PR but not tonight, I’m a bit tired.

I just created a PR with new SCE changes 🙂 https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/838/

I also did some changes to JET and JET-OMEMO with SCE in mind https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/839/

Heh. Bug in 220. One of the error conditions specified is remote-connection-failed. This is not an error in the urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas namespace.

220?

xep-0220

intosi, it is a stream error though

I know. But 220 tells us that the error in a db:result or db:verify MUST be in the stanza error namespace.

So either that MUST is a lie, or the error condition is an unfortunate relic of the 3920-era stream error replies to dialback issues.

What's the fastest way to draft a XEP? I don't think I've ever done that. :-S

Find something in inbox, copy it, edit it.

that ^ :)

How do I render the XML while editing?

xsltproc xep.xsl inbox/guus.xml > inbox/guus.html

Guus, make build/inbox/inboxxepname.html ✏

(if your xep is at inbox/inboxxepname.xml)

Guus, there is also xep-template.xml which is cleaner than most of what you find in the inbox

Call me an end-user, but I was hoping for more wysiwyg 🙂

sorry, we don’t have wysiwyg

I call that make and reload the browser tab usually ;)

but I’m also a happy LaTeX user, so....

Guus: I have some markdown to xep scripts if you're interested

Zash, could you PR those to the xeps repo as utils?

Zash that sounds interesting, given that there are tools that auto-convert markdown changes to output

I mean, there are XML editors that do the same, I think.

But I don't use one.

Maybe those exist for xslt too - Oxygen Author doesn't, it appears.

jonas’: I could, if someone reminds me in about 3 hours when I'm off work

I realize that we're wading into 'personal preference' territory here.

Guus: inotify and make in a loop?

Oxygen XML Author, CTRL-SHIFT-T.

that's what I'll try

It updates the same tab in a browser with the newly generated transformation result.

No-one asked for this information, but here it is.

If you happen to have a license, Oxygen XML * is a great tool.

`inowait` + `make` + `devd --livereload` ==> automatic reload in the browser when you hit save in the editor

`zsh: command not found: devd`

https://github.com/cortesi/devd

very interesting

https://xmpp.org/uses/iot/testimonials.html - I chuckled

oops :)

:(

MattJ, can you create the registry-docker-base repository in https://github.com/xsf for me please?

(and grant the editor team all the powers on it)

well, or at least as many powers as editors have on xep-docker-base

although I’ll still need Kev for the hub.docker.com things

Sure. Just making lunch, so give me a moment

MattJ: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/issues/490

jonas’: so sorry, got caught up in meetings and forgot. Here you go: https://github.com/xsf/registry-docker-base

Ge0rG: great

MattJ: somebody needs to do something

as always

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0001.html#submission wasn't there a change to 2119? I thought we moved to 8174

> Updated by: 8174

I know, that,s not my question

Do we only take into account CAPS keywords or all of them? The "Updated by" doesn't apply automagically right? Otherwise we'd have everybody using 6120/1 by now

But Updated doesn't mean it becomes obsolete

pep.: there was a debate in council regarding that, some time earlier this year, IIRC. I don't remember the consensus, but I think it was something like "reviewing all the XEPs for lowercase terms and then changing them would be very much work, and probably not even change anything"