XSF Discussion - 2019-10-06

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11:38:57 pep. lovetox_, you answered to me again :p
11:39:08 lovetox_ damn it
11:39:26 lovetox_ yeah but standards is cc
11:39:29 lovetox_ so does this work?
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11:39:58 pep. yeah it does
11:40:05 pep. I hadn't noticed the CC
11:40:13 pep. Just noticed that you ended up in the wrong folder
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11:41:11 lovetox_ thunderbird has a nice Answer to List option
11:41:16 lovetox_ gmail hasnt sadly
11:42:11 pep. Also top posting :(
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11:57:42 Ge0rG I've recently searched for something xmpp related and ddg displayed https://svn.xmpp.org/feeds/all.atom.xml as a hit. The hostname exists, the certificate is wrong, but the atom feed looks like from our blog. Maybe iteam should kill the svn hostname? Cc MattJ Kev
11:58:26 jonas’ yeah, it probably simply aliases to xmpp.org on the web server side of things
12:05:02 Link Mauve “12:22:07 flow> which we may should rename to something like <description-text/>”, I’ll add that to my long-overdue JingleFT list of things to fix.
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12:21:05 pep. jonas’, "<xs:attribute name='max_items' type='xs:positiveInteger' use='optional'/>" :(
12:22:58 Daniel if examples are not normative i don’t see max_items mentioned anywhere in the XEP
12:23:23 Daniel so i don’t even know where to add the clarified definition of max_items
12:25:58 pep. jonas’, hmm, maybe it's not for that max_items, sorry
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12:37:05 pep. "pubsub#purge_offline: Whether to purge all items when the relevant publisher goes offline", what does this mean? What's the use-case for this
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12:37:33 jonas’ who knows
12:38:00 Zash I'm sure it's useful for something.
12:38:12 Zash Like removing the future status-in-PEP when you go offline?
12:38:19 Zash Or mood/activity
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12:38:49 pep. Ô pubsub globs, (edhelas, goffi), have you not run into the max_items issue before? (I'm sure you have)
12:39:05 pep. Zash, oh
12:39:17 Daniel am I seeing that correctly that the only place to specify max_items behaviour is in the label of the data form in 16.4.4?
12:39:26 pep. yeah, instead of poezio issuing a (3) retract(s) when going offline
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12:43:41 lovetox_ Daniel if you add a paragraph do it also for pubsub#item_expire
12:44:09 Daniel lovetox_, what do you mean?
12:44:18 lovetox_ its the same deal
12:44:36 lovetox_ a field you have to set to a positive integer, and there is no "whatever the servers max is" option
12:45:01 Daniel ok
12:45:34 Daniel i wasn’t going to add a paragraph. but yeah I can clarify that as well :-)
12:46:50 lovetox_ also pubsub#children_max
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13:19:38 lovetox_ Daniel, you modifed pubsub#children
13:19:46 lovetox_ instead of pubsub#children_max
13:20:16 lovetox_ i dont know what children exactly holds, but its not a number
13:20:38 Zash Isn't that about the pubsub tree structure thing with nodes and leafs?
13:21:01 Daniel lovetox_, fixing
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13:24:55 Daniel fixed
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13:38:27 flow Link Mauve, +1, is the list public somewhere? Maybe even in the wiki?
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14:30:52 goffi pep., which max_items issue? Sorry I have little time to read logs
14:31:44 pep. https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-October/036502.html
14:32:00 pep. Just read the first mail. I'm sure you're also hitting similar issues for normal microblog/pubsub
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14:57:21 jonas’ Daniel, as I said in my mail, I think the max_items thing deserves a feature
14:57:41 jonas’ no wait, I got confused between PRs
14:57:47 jonas’ servers which don’t support that will probably simply fail
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15:49:13 lovetox_ yes jonas’ servers should not accept values they can nothing do with
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18:48:32 pep. https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2019/36c3-in-leipzig if anybody wants to talk at CCC
18:50:38 emus That would be great. It can also be made from several once to reflect different "sections" of xmpp. And we might get contact to the jabber.ccc.de guys to overwork their servers? 😀
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