- link to §7.2 in §5.3 is broken
- get rid of "Implementations SHOULD allow the user to turn off any colorization completely."?
- define how to generate secondary/additional color/hue if implementations require more than one color (e.g. use the second/third/... 16 bits in §5.1 algorithm)
- add reference to WCAG in §7.2
- make XEP Informational (not sure how/if this would be possible)
ZashUse of mystical Editor powers like `sed` maybe?
Zashgoes to read XEP-0001
Zash> If the proposal is accepted as a XEP, the XMPP Extensions Editor shall do the following:
> * specify an appropriate type
pep.Zash: I think formally it would have to be resubmitted to a different track
pep.We might need board to bypass all that?
ZashI think it just needs to be resubmitted, and The Editor can change the type
pep.You mean with it staying ”0392”?
ZashNah, redoing this would be a new number
pep.OK so we're saying the same thing
Zash> The XMPP Council may, at its discretion, decide to convert an Historical XEP into a Standards Track XEP if [...]
So there's a tiny bit of precedent for changing type.
lskdjfjonas’, yes indeed, that's much better now! Thanks for the edits 🙂
lskdjfOnly thing is I agree with larma about "Implementations SHOULD allow the user to turn off any colorization completely." - I also don't allow the user to turn off button hover effects or that nicks are written in bold text. To my (limited!) knowledge about color vision deficits this should be fine, but especially when allowing to select correction having colors shouldn't be any problem.
moparisthebestSHOULD isn't a MUST, you MAY just ignore it
jonas’lskdjf, this is about a different accessibility thing, which has to do with distraction, IIRC
jonas’and yeah, also that I’m certain that there will be facets of CVDs which simply can’t be accounted for, or interactions between CVDs and contrast ratios which make things weird/tricky
Ge0rGShouldn't that be an OS level thing, like done on iOS? I have a family member with color blindness and an iPhone, and you can't imagine how happy they were when I showed that setting
jonas’Ge0rG, it should, but until we have that ....
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jonas’(also, if an app prepares for that by doing the right thing right away, it may degrade a bit nicer? I don’t know)
Ge0rGWhere are all the accessibility gnomes?
lskdjfGe0rG, what does iOS do? Correct the colors? Or disable them?
Zashjonas’, if the OS fiddles with the color space in the same way that the algorithm does, it might get done twice and I don't think that'll look nice
Ge0rGlskdjf: it has a set of different color filters that you can choose from, globally for all apps
Ge0rGThis is most important for display of photos and video
Ge0rGhttp://www.iphonehacks.com/2016/09/enable-screen-filters-help-color-blindness-ios-10.html has screenshots
ZashTho if the OS has that, it should probably provide some API that lets the app know it doesn't have to deal with it, or something.
jonas’"Am I running on iOS?" -> Don’t have to deal with it, apparently
moparisthebestandroid also has a color blind setting
moparisthebestcalled "Color correction" you even get to pick the type of colorblindness you have, that's a screenshot from my phone
larmaColor correction will *not* fix everything for you, it will certainly help, especially if it's "only" an anomaly instead of full blindness, but it is still way better to handle it at application level if possible
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moparisthebestunless like Zash said that is made worse by OS-level Color Correction
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fippoI thought cisco had killed that one :-)
ZashWhere did you get Cisco from?
fippozash: I have a very vivid memory of the towel dispensers in the bathroom at the cisco office during the ... 2013 summit
fippowhich advertised cisco jabber video as THE BEST THING EVER