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David Cridland
Zash, While I appreciate your Council candidacy page, I feel I should remind you that XEP-0028 was found not to be conformant to RFC 5823 - though this was later revisited in RFC 6634.
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Guus
https://igniterealtime.org:443/httpfileupload/cde5951a-4db5-484b-92d0-7ba01b854fb3/image.png
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!XSF_Martin
You have to reapply every three month?
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Dave Cridland
Every year.
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!XSF_Martin
Ok, that's IMHO more reasonable than quarterly.
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ralphm
0. Welcome + Agenda
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ralphm
Hi!
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MattJ
o/
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Seve
Hi
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ralphm
Guus, nyco?
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Seve
nyco may not be available, as he had a meeting happening at the same time
- Dave Cridland can take minutes.
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MattJ
<3
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ralphm
Dave Cridland: thanks!
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ralphm
ok, let's go then
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ralphm
1. Publicize XSF Financials
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ralphm
I'm +1 on this, too, for the record.
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ralphm
Can we move this item off the board?
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MattJ
I think so, yes
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Seve
Yes
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ralphm
2. Board / Council Elections
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ralphm
Current state: 5 for board, 4 for council.
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ralphm
I read that Guus was going to write a blog post on this?
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Guus
Ohh, forgot about time
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Guus
I'm here
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Guus
sorry
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ralphm
Guus: DST hell?
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Guus
No, just busy
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MattJ
https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/626
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Guus
blogpost: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/626
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Guus
Either suggest improvements, or we'll merge here/now?
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ralphm
Right. So What's the holdup? I notice we're only days away from the deadline.
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Guus
There was a request for improvements - I gave feedback, and forgot about the entire thing
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ralphm
Ok.
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Guus
Is this good to go, even though pep. asked for a change?
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ralphm
I understand his comment, was trying to come up with an alternative.
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Guus
(we did use this exact wording before - I stole it from an older blogpost)
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ralphm
Yeah, I don't think it is that much of a problem.
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ralphm
I say just publish it as-is, we don't have more time to wordsmith.
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Seve
I think it is debatable the time we spend.
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Seve
Is not a fixed amount of time, I would say.
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ralphm
Indeed, some weeks more than others.
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Guus
That is to much information for such a blogpost.
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Guus
If what we have is not terribly wrong, let's merge and move on.
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ralphm
ok
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ralphm
Let's go
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ralphm
3. Review of Roadmap
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ralphm
I've just started my new job at Elastic, so yay.
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ralphm
But didn't get to this.
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Guus
congrats
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Seve
Congratulations ralphm!
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ralphm
Will look at it for now +2W, will be in Canada next week.
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ralphm
4. AOB
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Seve
None here
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ralphm
FYI, I put in a request for the Realtime Lounge at FOSDEM 2020 again.
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Guus
Let's hope we can get more space this year!
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ralphm
Also reminding them of the desire to have more space.
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ralphm
Right
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Guus
If someone has ideas for the lounge - this might be a good idea to start working on them✎ -
Guus
(swag, folders, etc)
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Guus
If someone has ideas for the lounge - this might be a good tie to start working on them ✏
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ralphm
Definitely. Also demos.
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Guus
If someone has ideas for the lounge - this might be a good time to start working on them ✏
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Guus
(I can't type today)
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ralphm
no worries
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ralphm
Ok, if that's it, then:
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ralphm
5 Date of Next
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ralphm
+1W
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Guus
+1 works for me
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MattJ
+1
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Seve
+1
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ralphm
(but I won't be there, maybe)
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Guus
kk
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ralphm
6. Close
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ralphm
Happy Halloween!
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MattJ
:)
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ralphm
And thanks all.
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MattJ
Thanks ralphm
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Guus
thanks!
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Seve
Thank you guys!
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Dave Cridland
Guus, ralphm - bottle openers, this time with "Open as in Beer" on them?
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Guus
wfm 🙂
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ralphm
Dude
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Guus
Can we think of something something 'Open as in Speech' too? 🙂
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Dave Cridland
Pens?
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Guus
https://xmpp.org/2019/10/xsf-board-and-council-2019-2020-elections/ is now up, if people want to refer to it in call to actions of their own.
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Ge0rG
Is "Proxy voting" an established term outside of the XSF.✎ -
Ge0rG
Is "Proxy voting" an established term outside of the XSF? ✏
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MattJ
Yes
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LNJ
Does anyone know whether there is a good reference implementation for parsing the XMPP-URIs (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5122 ) ?
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MattJ
Any URI parser should do
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Ge0rG
Don't forget to url encode them properly
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Ge0rG
Rooms in matrix and irc start with #, which is a special character in URLs
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LNJ
Ok, i think it works now with proper escaping with Qt's QUrl/QUrlQuery
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Link Mauve
What do we currently have for collaborative edition? XEP-0284 for XML, kind of XEP-0301 but that’s only for our own messages, anything else?
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Zash
What's https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0204.html
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moparisthebest
> This JEP
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moparisthebest
never noticed that before, wonder how often that happens...
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pep.
Ah that one. I discovered it a few days ago
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Link Mauve
Zash, my usecase is a collaborative plain text editor.
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Link Mauve
Ideally that’ll also be compatible with other collaborative editors, like Inkscape or so.
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Zash
What's the stuff in Abiword even? IIRC that's XMPP based.
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Link Mauve
I’ll have a look.
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Link Mauve
Hum, https://www.abisource.com/developers/download.phtml doesn’t support TLS 1.2, and Firefox doesn’t support anything lower nowadays.
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moparisthebest
"JEP" is only used in in XEP-204, guess it should probably be changed
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Zash
Patch it
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moparisthebest
it's in a couple other ones too, but only "JEP to XEP", 0001 talking about what they used to be called, and in the middle of a base64 image, so those don't count
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Zash
Hah
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Link Mauve
Zash, they’re using Telepathy tubes it seems.
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Zash
Right
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Link Mauve
I have no recollection of which protocol they are using.
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Link Mauve
And here I am, writing threaded C++ code. :(
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Zash
Link Mauve, libinfinity btw
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Link Mauve
Hmm, I wonder if it might be a better fit than XMPP for this purpose.
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Link Mauve
Seems quite abandonned though. :/
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Link Mauve
There are commits from 2015 on the first page, and the latest commit is from 1.5 years ago. :x
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Link Mauve
Their API documentation is down too: http://infinote.0x539.de/libinfinity/API/libinftext/
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Link Mauve
Their automake script even fails…
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Link Mauve
And now I’m missing Rust a lot, message passing without pattern matching makes me very sad.
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rion
Hah one of my subordinates whines every day how terrible c++ in comparison to Rust but he still has to use c++ with boost because of the current project. I don't even know what to answer but I agree with him just wrt boost :)
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rion
> And here I am, writing threaded C++ code. :( I hope it's some cool PRECIS implementation 😁
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pep.
From XEP-0001, <xs:element name='authornote' type='empty' minOccurs='0'/>, what's this type empty? Is this a hack for something I don't understand? It seems to allow only the empty string value.
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pep.
hmm. It seems to add a link to an authornote anchor if it exists.
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pep.
Where are booleans when you need them