lovetoxstill feel we should do something about the MAM stanza-id rules
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lovetoxright now it says the id must be unique within an archive
lovetoxwhich is good, i hope all server implementations considered the case that the server database is wiped or server is new setup
lovetoxthe new ids in the new installation must not clash with old ids from the old installation
lovetoxbecause only because i wipe a database on the server does not mean its wiped on the client
lovetoxi know ejabberd uses a timestamp
lovetoxdont know what prosody uses
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lovetoxprobably a uuid so also fine
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Danieljonas’: do you relay on roominfo_occupants or do you do a disco items on the room or something?
ZashI would guess the former
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ZashRelated: Prosody doesn't return occupants on disco#items anymore for privacy reasons.
pep.Daniel, asking because the number is not what you expect?
Daniel> Daniel, asking because the number is not what you expect?
I'm about to find out
pep.It's a floating number, it's not accurate at all times
pep.That's on purpose
ZashMoving average iirc
pep.Right that
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DanielAh. On the search you mean. No thats fine.
DanielI'm discoing my own server and are wondering if I can actually do something useful with that number
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Daniel> Related: Prosody doesn't return occupants on disco#items anymore for privacy reasons.
All rooms or just private ones?
ZashAll.
ZashCode deleted is best code.
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Danielsight. i never wanted to implement 'local muc' discovery because I thought it would be 95% garbage/empty or unaccesible mucs. however it might be useful for some very special in-house deployments and therefor I implemented it; now i’m frustrated about seeing 95% garbage mucs on the servers that i've tested this with…
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ZashMmmmmmmmmmmyeah.
ZashI had toughts about garbage collection
DanielCan I discover that I have admin priveleges on the server?
ZashMaybe
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DanielThinking out loud over a 'destroy channel' in the context menu of that search
DanielWithout having to join first
ZashIn theory, I think there's something in xep-0030 for admin accounts
DanielAlso I'm wondering if disco#items on ejabberd lists unlisted rooms that I created
DanielJust because I'm wondering why there are so many in my own server
ZashDaniel: Prosody does however expose an ad-hoc command on MUCs to admins for destroying rooms
DanielIs that different to normal destroy?
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ZashDaniel: It allows destroying multiple rooms at once. Does the same thing internally tho.
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DanielWhy are there so many rooms on various public servers that look like the ones auto generated by Conversations. Does the unlisted thing not work?
ZashHm?
DanielTo people deliberately use gajim to make them listed
DanielWhat is going on
ZashExample?
DanielConversations create group chat has a way of creating random local parts
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lovetoxDaniel, public_list is a custom setting on ejabberd
lovetoxi dont think prosody even has one
DanielWhat?
ZashNow I'm confused
lovetoxat least my code uses "public_list" in room creation
lovetoxmaybe i missed a official option for that?
ZashDaniel: Can you (ev privately) point me at a public server that shows this?
DanielIt's called publicroom
ZashI'm not seeing a lot on the random few I looked at
lovetoxmuc#roomconfig_publicroom
lovetoxindeed
lovetoxwhats public_list then on ejabberd
lovetoxsomething different probably
Zash(Fun fact: It's called 'hidden' internally in Prosody and set to the opposite of muc#roomconfig_publicroom)
DanielZash, never mind. maybe it wasn’t that many after all. on a mobile screen even ~5 look like a lot
ZashHeh.
lovetoxah public_list on ejabberd is to hide the member list
lovetoxso you can make the room searchable but dont query who is in it
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Zashhttps://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#disco-roomitems MAY for a somewhat redundant, you get all that via presence when you join✎
Zashhttps://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#disco-roomitems MAY for a somewhat redundant thing, you get all that via presence when you join ✏
Danieli mean browse through the last pages of muclumbus https://search.jabber.network/rooms/29 and you see a few of them (vowel and consonant alternating) - but in the grand scope of things it's probably 'ok' to see a few
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ZashCan it be changed trough Conversations?
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ZashIf it's at all possible to flip the 'public' switch then some people will find out and do it.