ZashWait what https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0122.html#impl-ns
Zash> The use of namespace prefixes is RECOMMENDED for large forms, to reduce the data size.
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pep.SCAM is having their first regular meeting (in some time) in xmpp:scam@muc.xmpp.org?join at 4 CET (3 UTC) every first tuesday of the month (today). Don't hesitate to join.
pep.I don't guarantee anything fancy
jonas’do you guarantee scamming?
pep.:)
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Ge0rGluckily there is no SPAM WG
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Link Mauvedebxwoody, gloox is pre-C++11 C++, I’m not sure I’ll be able to survive that.
Link MauveI just tried upstreaming the SXE module I already wrote.
Link MauveBut it requires changing almost all of it.
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KevSwiften's only C++11 at the moment, although it'll be 14 'soon', and hopefully can move to 17 after that.
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KevBut 03->11 is the biggest jump that's hard to cope without, I think.
Link MauveOk, I’m sold, I’ll try with Swiften instead. ^^
Link MauveHere I was complaining about the lack of pattern matching in C++, but if I have to go back to C++03 nothanks.
KevThen you can just swear at us for being the only people on Earth to use scons.
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Link Mauve:(
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rionAnd Boost is a nightmare ;) the worst documentation ever. Extremely slow to compile any project based on it. Totally unreadable heavily-templated code.
Honestly I don't know how Swiften devs live with it =)
KevI think the documentation is far from the worst ever. But it's often not quick to compile, yeah. And the code is pretty much unreadable, but thankfull you don't need to.✎
KevI think the documentation is far from the worst ever. But it's often not quick to compile, yeah. And the code is pretty much unreadable, but thankfully you don't need to. ✏
KevAnd C++11 got rid of most of the boost templates from Swiften.
rionSwitching from regular c++ to c++Boost is like switching to erlang with zero knowledge of functional programming.
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rionI often have to read these crappy boost templates because asio docs never have information I need
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Ge0rGDamn, it's Tuesday and I haven't managed to incorporate Last Call feedback into CS-2020
KevIsn't there another week on the LC?
KevPlease don't say I've lost a week.
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Ge0rGKev: you've lost a week.
KevBugger.
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rionLink Mauve: use any Qt-based xmpp lib. 7Mb of shared libraries and you will be the happiest developer ever :)
Link MauveI’m not sure upstream will be very happy with Qt. :/
Link MauveThey use GLFW for windowing currently.
moparisthebestI'm not sure I could ever write C++ again after Rust
jonas’moparisthebest, it was easy to go back for me
Link Mauvemoparisthebest, it is extremely hard. :x
rionQt Core+Network do not depend on anything GUI-related
rionso why not
moparisthebestuh without wanting to injure myself*
jonas’moparisthebest, having done rust and golang and C++, I’m currently most happy at C++
moparisthebestew have you been mentally evaluated? haha
Ge0rGthe maps.me android app seems to depend on Qt. It's also huuuuge. But it's also fast, the only alternative map rendering app that can compete with Google Maps
Link MauveI’ve never tried Go, but for the other two I have a very strong preference towards Rust.
moparisthebestGe0rG, what about OsmAnd+ ?
jonas’it’s slow
Link MauveEverything is just so much more comfy there.
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Ge0rGmoparisthebest: what jonas’ said. It's faster than mapsforge, and better rendered, but it's still slow
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Ge0rGI urgently need a maps library that I can plug into my Android app and that supports offline maps
moparisthebestI haven't had problems with OsmAnd+ but I haven't tried maps.me either, guess I will now though thanks!
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Ge0rGmoparisthebest: there is a no-hotel-ads version on f-droid
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moparisthebestI only use F-droid, don't even have google play services
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pep.To trello gurus, is there a way to reference an item in another?
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jonas’just paste a link into it maybe?
pep.I don't know where to get that link
jonas’open an item, copy URL?
jonas’like, from your browser
pep.ah, just have to open the thing yeah..
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rion Does any client implement stanza content encryption?
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pep.Stanza Content Encryption by itself is useless
pep.There's no XEP that use it yet
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Link MauveShouldn’t OX be changed to use that?
pep.It should
pep.OMEMO2 should also be started at some point to use that
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Ge0rGBefore or after OMEMO1 is finished?
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pep.will it ever
ZashFinished as in gone?
pep.with omemo2 I mean whatever namespace bump is required to fix things
pep.So if there is namespace bump, might as well add SCE
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flowDid the voting mechanism of memberbot change? Wasn't it previously yes/no questions? Is the order of any relevance?
flowUh, and where's the source? :)
DanielI think the yes/no style is only for members
DanielI don't think the order matters. It would be fun to switch to ranked voting or how ever that is called
pep.flow, https://github.com/legastero/memberbot I believe that's the source
pep.And the order of applicants is supposed to be random