XSF Discussion - 2019-12-01

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08:35:38 DebXWoody Maybe xmpp URI Support on Codeberg https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/Community/issues/102 :-)
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10:52:12 pep. DebXWoody, cool :)
10:52:38 pep. You should also link to the RFC to make it easier to find maybe, https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5122
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10:58:50 DebXWoody pep., thanks. Done
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11:27:06 pep. Are there any companies doing some lobbying to the CA/Browser Forum btw? I was just reminded of that. Guus, you were providing hosted solutions right iirc?
11:27:31 pep. Daniel ^
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11:28:43 pep. To get proper XMPP certs ^
11:29:15 Daniel I'm afraid that we don't have the budget for that
11:29:50 pep. Maybe lots of small budgets can make for a bigger one :)
11:31:28 Zash If you put two small budgets a large distance apart they can function as one large budget! https://www.xkcd.com/1922/
11:34:09 jonas’ what kind of budget are we talking about?
11:34:17 jonas’ because this seems like some way to spend XSF funds
11:35:19 Zash bookmarks https://github.com/letsencrypt/boulder/issues/1309
11:35:46 pep. yeah that's the well-known one :)
11:36:10 pep. That's what I get in my browser now when I start typing "boulder"
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11:39:40 Daniel In my experience posh works relatively well
11:39:51 Daniel I'd just lobby xmpp clients to implemt that
11:40:35 Zash But web :(
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15:35:00 moparisthebest Or public key pinning with DANE
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15:35:28 moparisthebest Just have to get everyone off the terrible .im TLD that doesn't support DNSSEC
15:35:50 Zash Isn't that a different issue?
15:36:04 Ge0rG moparisthebest: or shame them into finally implementing that abandoned dead end of crypto specification
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17:06:55 moparisthebest Zash: no you don't need the cert signed by a CA in that case at all
17:07:53 Zash I don't think you really even need a cert. Not sure what the state of raw public keys in TLS is tho.
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17:17:00 Zash DANE is apparently doing pretty well in the email space tho.
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