XSF Discussion - 2019-12-11

Kann man mit XMPP in C++ ein Messanger schreiben ?

Can I write an messanger in C++ with the XMPP protocole ?

Sure. E.g. Swift ( https://swift.im/ ) is an XMPP client written in C++

with server ?

Servers can also be written in C++

But only C++ no swift

XMPP is a protocol definition, that can be implemented in most programming languages.

and can i run the server on raspberry pi

See https://xmpp.org/software/ for a listing of some of the available implementations.

Please be aware that you're in a discussion channel for the protocol itself.

People do have servers running on a raspberry, yes. I personally don't have experience with that.

Okay, sorry, I thought they could help me

No worries, we can.

Yes I just wanted to write a messenger in C ++ and wanted to inform me about the protocol XMPP and see if it runs on a Paspberry pi ...

I'm a Java dev myself, so I have limited C++ experience.

I think https://camaya.net/gloox/ is a commonly used library for C++ though

Apart from Swiften (note that the name does not relate to Swift from Apple, even if it sounds similar)

Yes and I am a 13 year old student who knows python and now wants to learn C ++ ...

Cool. go for it 🙂

Oh, I thought of swift an apple, sorry

If you are just starting out I'd recommend focusing on either the server or the client for now

And then either use a preexisting server or client to test what you are developing with

Swiften, the XMPP project, existed long before Swift from Apple came along 🙂

Okay, thank you very much, I have not had this idea for so long and I just did Python and played a bit with the Apache2 server. Now I wanted to learn C ++ but realized that it's fast like python ✏

Okay, thank you very much, I have not had this idea for so long and I just did Python and played a bit with the Apache2 server. Now I wanted to learn C ++ but realized that it's fast like python

Happy to help. Good luck!

Oh, and I am there with my Ubuntu (19.04) limited

I'm sorry but I have to go offline now because my mother says I should sleep now (time difference)

Sleep tight

I'm thinking more 'age difference' than 'time difference' 😉

Well I live in Europe

most of us here do.

I'm from the Netherlands myself

Okay, but I really have to go offline but thank you and good luck;)

"XMPP, making mothers angry around the globe"

Oh,... I'm too late. If he will come back, you can show him https://codeberg.org/xmpp-messenger

There are two small gloox apps which can help him. Next weekend I will be able to push XEP-0030 info app.

Is there a good/easy way to generate groupchat invitation URLs for a web client?

Let's say I would like somebody to join our groupchat via web client because the person doesn't have to install an app

Anybody who thought about this use case?

If it's a public room with a publicly accessible web chat (like this very room!) then you could check if there's an URL for it in disco and send that.

marc_: https://search.jabber.network/search?f=y&q=xsf

jonas’, it forgot about us again! :S

No, I want invite somebody with one or two clicks

Oh

No public group chat

Ge0rG, you somehow got all the checkboxes unchecked?

marc_, private groupchat but anonymous web chat access? not aware of anything atm

XEP-0379 but for MUC?

Would be nice to have that, might lower the on boarding bar

I thought about that the home server could advertise a web client URL or something like that

marc_, get Ge0rG, yourself and JC in a room together?

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0379.xml + https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0401.xml + web client = ???

and a touch of MUC

Zash: did you just say muc password?

Not sure, maybe a service advertisement would be enough

One-time MUC passwords?

Just to advertise web client URLs and that we don't have to rely on a single web service like conversejs.org or something similar

Something in the style of https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0156.html ?

At the moment I have to generate such URLs manually

Maybe, not sure if DNS but some way that my client (e.g. Conv) can generate a web client URL for other users

Hm, consider that a MUC service might be detached from the XMPP service you're on.

If it's a private room, how do you want to authenticate the web user?

Not sure, at the moment via the cryptic name :D

At the moment I don't need security. It's just for "let's join the room and discuss when we meet without fucking WhatsApp"

Web client startup code that gets room(s) from the ?query or #hash part of the URL would do the trick?

And some trickery so you know this works

Like the trickery done here to get https://search.jabber.network/search?q=xsf to get that "join using browser" link

marc_: the web chat url is in the disco#info response, all you need is to expose that in a client

to make it private the room could have a password, and the password could be in the uri

Making it non-public and having a long random name works like a password

Nice, sounds like what I need

Is this disco thing standardized? ✏

Heh, well, https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/828