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18:41:14 Link Mauve “17:41:44 Zash> I can't remember seeing an actual password-protected MUC”, I once was on an IRC channel that was password-protected, biboumi handled that transparently for me.
18:41:35 Zash Once upon a dream?
18:46:14 jonas’ I know people who use biboumi with password-protected IRC channels right now
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21:34:31 edhelas So it's a thing
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22:04:03 MattJ I think trying to remove it from the protocol this way is a bad idea
22:04:19 MattJ Remove it from the UI, sure
22:04:39 Zash Who's removing it from the protocol?
22:04:51 MattJ Bookmarks 2
22:05:10 MattJ Is purposely pretending passwords don't exist
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22:07:45 Zash Would it be okay for it to be an extension?
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22:13:49 MattJ That was proposed on the list
22:14:30 MattJ And it became a discussion about whether clients should be expected to preserve extensions they don't understand when modifying items
22:15:34 Zash Yeah, that's the part that I found
22:15:51 Ge0rG Which doesn't work with how most xml parsers work
22:20:58 flow Preserving extensions you do not know raises just the bar for implementations, and, probably depending on the parser, is not trivial to implement reliable for every corner case
22:21:42 flow e.g. the XmlPullParser in Smack has an XML_ROUND_TRIP feature which makes it easy, but it is not available everywhere
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22:35:25 Ge0rG There are complaints in my adb log about a feature missing in XmlPullParser...
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