XSF Discussion - 2020-01-29

  1. flow

    Zash, you describe the situation in c2s, but xep225 talks about component connections. I think the intention is to use JIDs (bare dominpart jids in the case of components) at the TLS layer (e.g. the certificate's DNS SAN) and in the SASL layer when connecting a component to an xmpp server

  2. flow

    although I could imagine that we could do/allow the same as we do with c2s connection for component connections and SASL, i.e. the the authzid does not strictly has to be JID (or a part of the JID), I am not sure if it's worth it as it potentially adds to confusion

  3. Zash

    flow, but it talks about connecting as a normal client at first

  4. Ge0rG

    jonas’: votes submitted

  5. jonas’

    \*/ ✎

  6. jonas’

    \o/ ✏

  7. Guus

    dwd - are you getting my messages?

  8. Guus

    I'm getting errors back.

  9. dwd

    Oh. No, I'm not.

  10. Guus

    sigh

  11. Guus

    could you send me one please?

  12. Guus

    I received your 'blah'

  13. Guus

    but still get errors when trying to reply

  14. dwd

    Exclamation mark or question mark?

  15. Guus

    Blah?

  16. Guus

    not Blah!

  17. Guus

    I've sent you the stuff I wanted to send you by email now 🙂

  18. Guus

    dwd: I got the "Blah!" on my mobile

  19. flow

    Zash, I am not sure it does (it talks about that the stream establishment is identical to c2s with the mentioned exceptions), and even if, does it matter?

  20. Zash

    How do I distinguish between the user 'component.example.com@example.com' and the component 'component.example.com' ?

  21. flow

    Zash, good question, I assume the answer probably involves different ports

  22. flow

    but xep225 sure could be calrified regarding this

  23. jonas’

    XEP-0430 and XEP-0431 incoming

  24. Zash

    which is which??!?! 😃

  25. Ge0rG

    uh-oh!

  26. dwd

    jonas’, PR for XEP-0431.

  27. pep.

    I can do that

  28. jonas’

    timing

  29. jonas’

    I still have the shells open

  30. jonas’

    will do it

  31. pep.

    k

  32. Zash

    We need Hats!

  33. dwd

    Thanks.

  34. pep.

    Zash, "Has all the shells open" hat?

  35. Zash

    Editor Hat at least

  36. jonas’

    dwd, merged & pushed

  37. dwd

    Thanks

  38. lovetox

    so how does last call work?

  39. lovetox

    i give my feedback and then authors have to respond to it?

  40. Daniel

    Yes

  41. Daniel

    For some definition of 'have to respond'

  42. flow

    lovetox, they do not have to respond to it

  43. flow

    they also could just vanish

  44. Daniel

    They don't have to. But if they completely ignore feedback it won't make it to draft

  45. flow

    depends if the voting body aggrees with the feedback

  46. Zash

    The holy text: <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0001.xml#proposal>

  47. Zash

    > Once the consensus of the Standards SIG has been incorporated into the XEP and all issues of substance raised during the Last Call have been addressed by the XEP author or Document Shepherd

  48. Zash

    [editor asks council or such to vote]

  49. flow

    lovetox, recent changes to xep1 also introduced the "Document Shepherd" role if the authors become inactive

  50. lovetox

    yeah authors are not inactive here

  51. lovetox

    i just wondered