XSF Discussion - 2020-02-06

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  87. jonas’

    20:45:18 Zash> Given the flexibility of XMPP, having clients and servers optimized for each other makes sense. "Optimized for Internet Explorer 5 on 1024x768 pixels"

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  229. LNJ

    Is there any XEP for voting already?

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  241. MattJ

    Surprisingly no, not that I'm aware of

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  244. ralphm

    Although politicians would like you to believe online voting is _just fine_, there are still people with concerns around this, particularly regarding voting secrecy (others not being able to know how a particular individual voted) and the ability to verify votes are in fact correctly counted.

  245. pep.

    There are different levels of secrecy/privacy one might want to achieve.

  246. Zash


  247. ralphm

    In the Netherlands, the rules are pretty clear on this: there should not be a way to derive how an indivual voted, to prevent coersion.

  248. pep.

    Zash: I had that in mind yeah

  249. Zash

    Wanna help me refiddle and resubmit it?

  250. pep.

    ralphm: that's only for governmental stuff though right?

  251. MattJ

    and PR memberbot

  252. Ge0rG

    call it "polls" and not voting

  253. Zash

    Alt, figure out how XEP-0050 over messages would work?

  254. pep.

    Ge0rG: yeah

  255. ralphm

    pep., I thought the question was related to the US pre-elections. If not, then sure, please call it polls.

  256. Zash

    Ge0rG: I envisioned it as simple actions, simple fixed responses.

  257. Zash

    Polls and voting would be implementation details

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  259. ralphm

    simple polls (as done in Slack) are pretty mutch congruent with reactions, by the way

  260. pep.

    I think that's pretty much a hack

  261. ralphm

    simple polls (as done in Slack) are pretty much congruent with reactions, by the way

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  263. ralphm

    I am not saying you should use Reactions for this, of course, I'm saying that the handling is similar, including MAM

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  266. ralphm

    (again, for the simple case)

  267. pep.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xfpy5c3thQo this was an interesting talk about online voting btw

  268. pep.

    at LinuxConAU this month

  269. Zash

    The solution to online voting is easy: Don't.

  270. pep.

    at LinuxConfAU this month

  271. Ge0rG

    Zash: I remember. I actually liked the idea

  272. Zash

    But not enough to accept it and have issues fixed as Experimental?

  273. ralphm

    Zash: that's indeed the stance of a group of indivuals here, that are (translated) named "we don't trust voting-computers"

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  275. ralphm

    Zash: that the issues for computer-assisted voting of any kind right now, outweigh the supposed issues with paper ballots.

  276. pep.

    Zash: an answer to online voting is no proprietary crap, and make the process transparent

  277. ralphm

    pep., it is not that simple, at all

  278. Zash

    I'm sure you can solve it with magic crypto dust. But please explain it to your mom or anyone not a cryptographer.

  279. pep.

    note that this applies to lots of things :)

  280. ralphm

    pep., but having provable code is at least a beginning

  281. Ge0rG

    voting/polls don't make any sense if you don't have persistent MAM forever.

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  285. Zash

    ralphm: Yeah I don't see how you can really beat paper ballots for privacy and understandability.

  286. LNJ

    Yes i just was up to simple polls like you have with other messengers

  287. Zash

    There's some things you can do with computers to help, like print new ballots when they run out instead of having centralized printing you pre-order from

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  291. Guus

    I just signed up to Telegram (don't ask). Got two messages within 5 minutes: "Huh" and "What are you doing here, in this silo?" 😇

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  293. Guus


  294. Guus

    (some people love their silos)

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  296. Zash

    Does it tell people you joined?

  297. MattJ

    Guus, happens to me too (I frequently install/uninstall those for research purposes)

  298. Guus

    > Does it tell people you joined? Apparently

  299. pep.

    Zash: that's an obvious UX improvement! who cares about privacy :)

  300. Ge0rG

    Even Signal does.

  301. moparisthebest

    They weigh privacy vs marketing and marketing wins, our scale tends to tip the other way

  302. Zash

    And all the privacy concious people already use Signal

  303. Ge0rG

    Like jwz.

  304. Ge0rG

    I like his image for that. https://www.jwz.org/blog/2018/08/signal/

  305. nyco-2


  306. nyco-2


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  311. ralphm

    0. Welcome + Agenda

  312. ralphm

    Welcome everyone! Who do we have?

  313. pep.


  314. MattJ


  315. Guus

    me to

  316. Guus


  317. ralphm


  318. Seve


  319. ralphm


  320. ralphm

    1. Minute taker

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  322. nyco-2

    /\ above /\

  323. ralphm

    2. XMPP Summit / FOSDEM

  324. ralphm

    I want to take this opportunity to again thank everyone that made this a success!

  325. MattJ

    +1 :)

  326. ralphm

    I think the Summit was full of good discussions and vibe.

  327. ralphm

    While at the Summit we were a bit cramped, I've already talked to the FOSDEM crew about this, and there are some ideas for next year. I think we did have good discussions there, too, with our visitors.

  328. Seve

    That is how it feels! :)

  329. ralphm

    Unfortunately I missed Sunday, including the devroom.

  330. pep.


  331. Guus

    I think he means we were cramped at FOSDEM, not Summit.

  332. ralphm

    pep., I meant at FOSDEM

  333. pep.


  334. ralphm

    (I really want that edit-all-previous-messages-not-just-the-last feature)

  335. ralphm

    Guus or I will send out a message to handle any financials.

  336. ralphm

    3. Excuse Fabian Sauter from SCAM

  337. ralphm

    COM8 has mentioned his intent to leave SCAM, so I move we hereby remove him from this team.

  338. ralphm


  339. pep.

    +1 (do we actually need to vote?)

  340. ralphm

    pep., yes, we do assignments of work teams

  341. MattJ


  342. Seve


  343. ralphm

    Motion carries. Thanks Fabian!

  344. Guus

    +1 - thanks Fabian!

  345. Guus

    (unsure if we can stop a resignment?)

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  348. pep.

    Guus: yeah that was my point

  349. ralphm

    4. Guus, probably not. But hey, now everyone is definitely on the same page.

  350. Guus

    anyways - case closed.

  351. ralphm

    oops, that's not an agenda item

  352. ralphm

    4. 2020 Sponsors

  353. ralphm

    At the XSF Dinner I thanked our current sponsors, and think this is also the right time to give our Sponsorship program some attention.

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  356. Guus

    Good. Thoughts on how?

  357. ralphm

    In particular, I think we should write a message to these current sponsors to ask if they'd like to renew.

  358. Guus

    That's an obvious step that we seem to forget all the time 🙂

  359. ralphm

    Hence me bringing it up.

  360. Guus


  361. Seve


  362. ralphm

    In addition, it would be good to send a message out (using various channels) with similar thanks, and an invitation to join our Sponsorship program.

  363. ralphm

    Possibly in collaboration with commteam.

  364. MattJ


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  367. nyco-2

    from the ground: may we also ask for sponsorship to any software company selling XMPP products and services? I mean not just renew the current and past sponsors

  368. ralphm

    nyco-2 that was my intent, indeed

  369. nyco-2

    CommTeam hat on: not sure how we can, but listening

  370. Seve

    Sending a tweet/toot out with a link to our sponsorship page for starters maybe

  371. ralphm

    nyco-2: I was thinking an e-mail to members, standards, jdev, a blog post, and links to that in our socials.

  372. ralphm

    maybe also operators (e-mail)

  373. Guus

    should we start adding our sponsors to the newsletter?

  374. nyco-2

    we can contribute something like that, yes

  375. nyco-2

    Guus our sponsors page is enough? no need to repeat in each newsletter?

  376. pep.

    Guus: I'm sure the website is already enough exposure

  377. ralphm

    We could add this for specific levels, like say Platinum

  378. Guus

    no biggy to me. Just a throught

  379. Guus

    no biggy to me. Just a thought

  380. ralphm

    Good suggestion, thanks

  381. pep.

    I'm sure there are other things to do before we start thinking about this. like using the money.

  382. nyco-2

    this means we guarantee the newsletter will go out in a timely manner we can't as today we have a SPOF in me

  383. MattJ

    pep., they aren't mutually-exclusive

  384. nyco-2

    before using the money, let's get it

  385. pep.

    MattJ: but may encourage sponsors

  386. ralphm

    pep., sure, let's have that discussion too, but not in this agenda item

  387. pep.

    "hey do you want to give us money?" "what for?"

  388. MattJ

    "Help! We're almost bankrupt!" next year :)

  389. Seve


  390. ralphm

    pep., shall I add a new agenda item for this?

  391. ralphm

    (for next time)

  392. pep.

    ralphm: agenda item maybe not, I do have a few.idead to bounce off board/members though

  393. pep.

    ralphm: agenda item maybe not, I do have a few ideas to bounce off board/members though

  394. ralphm

    Although I'm not sure what to name it. "How to spend our money" is very broad. I'd like more concrete asks, really.

  395. ralphm

    pep., ok, can you add an appropriate card yourself then?

  396. Guus

    maybe also have a pre-discussion on list, if appropriate?

  397. pep.

    Guus: what I'm saying

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  399. pep.

    ralphm: no content for an item yet. that's list matter

  400. ralphm

    In any case, I believe we are spending a bit more on coenferences and materials than previous years, so that's great and a good thing to mention to prospective sponsors

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  402. ralphm

    pep., ok

  403. ralphm

    I'll work with Seve and nyco to come up with some prose.

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  405. pep.

    (and I do encourage anybody to propose ways to spend the money in any case, it's not just me)

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  409. ralphm

    Yes, spending money is a hobby of mine.

  410. ralphm

    5. AOB

  411. MattJ

    I have a related ask, which can be taken to the list and/or next week if necessary

  412. ralphm

    MattJ, ok!

  413. ralphm

    6. Date of Next

  414. ralphm


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  417. pep.

    +1 wfm

  418. ralphm

    7. Close

  419. MattJ


  420. ralphm

    Thanks all!

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  422. jonas’

    Thanks, Board

  423. nyco-2


  424. Guus


  425. nyco-2

    please edit!

  426. Seve

    Thank you as always nyco-2

  427. nyco-2

    I won't send without your validations

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  430. MattJ

    At FOSDEM I was approached by someone who would potentially be able to provide funding for some modernxmpp.org activities

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  433. MattJ

    They asked if it would be possible to do that via the XSF (they are a non-profit)

  434. pep.

    nyco-2: lgtm

  435. pep.


  436. MattJ

    i.e. send money to the XSF ring-fenced for specific projects

  437. nyco-2

    modernxmpp as a WG?

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  439. pep.

    maybe not wg no

  440. nyco-2

    why not

  441. pep.

    that's an independent project (wants to be, as I understand it)

  442. nyco-2


  443. pep.

    it's an opinionated project, which goes against the neutrality

  444. nyco-2

    why create a new entity with all the needed effort and cost?

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  446. nyco-2

    does not seem opiniated

  447. MattJ

    It's not really a new entity, that's the point of the funding going via the XSF

  448. Guus

    MattJ: who should the XSF pay with that money?

  449. nyco-2

    suggestion: a few project leads that are not companies (yet?)

  450. MattJ

    Guus, the project is yet to be scoped - but e.g. UX experts, technical writers, whatever the project that they want to fund entails

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  452. Guus

    It's the XSFs mission to facilitate xmpp development, so I'm not immediately against helping out with financial arrangements. Things need to be very clear though.

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  454. MattJ

    I'm more testing the water to see if this is an acceptable thing in principle, because if it's not then other arrangements would need to be made

  455. MattJ

    If it is, then at some point a concrete project proposal and statement of work would be provided down the road

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  457. Guus

    Well, if there's an entity that wants to spend money on XMPP, we'd be fools to not try and make that work.

  458. MattJ

    I agree :)

  459. pep.

    MattJ: there's also SPI otherwise than can do that. I do understand the will to go through the XSF though, if possible

  460. Guus

    We must think carefully about how things are arranged properly though. Things revolving around money often tend to get messy fast. I don't want discord amongst ourselves over this.

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  462. MattJ

    However I'd like to see things like this become more normal for the XSF, personally :/

  463. Guus

    eg: would this benefit a certain project more than others? I'd not even be against that, but only if that's explicitly established before we accept the money.

  464. Guus

    That would be good. I do think we should carefully think about if the XSF should be in a position to decide who gets (and who does not get) the money.

  465. Guus

    I'd prefer if the donor makes that decision.

  466. Guus

    (haven given this all of 2 minutes of thoughts)

  467. MattJ

    I've seen objections to related things in the past due to "unfairness" if the XSF provides money to open-source work but not commercial entities working on XMPP

  468. MattJ

    I personally think that is absolute nonsense, but I don't think modernxmpp.org falls into that category

  469. jonas’

    (also make sure we don't get in tax/money laundering trouble if it's really just forwarding money through a non-profit)

  470. MattJ

    Since it provides open documentation for XMPP projects of all kinds

  471. MattJ

    jonas’, are you aware of a specific problem with that?

  472. MattJ

    (I'm sure organisation transfer money between each other all the time)

  473. MattJ

    (I'm sure organisations transfer money between each other all the time)

  474. jonas’

    MattJ: no, especially since the XSF is US based

  475. Guus

    If this money is used to create documentation only, things might already be a bit easier - but still, we're setting a bit of a precedent with this. Let's think it over carefully.

  476. Guus

    In any case, I would very much welcome the opportunity

  477. jonas’

    but this sounds like the kind of stuff you want to double check

  478. MattJ

    Regardless of this specific thing, I'd like to see a process for people to apply for, and the XSF to grant, funding for projects

  479. MattJ

    Even if each has to be approved by $some_committee on a per-project basis

  480. MattJ

    It should be a thing that we can do

  481. Guus

    I like that.

  482. pep.

    Guus: re neutrality, I don't think that's a problem. We can just say we'd funnel.money for any xmpp-related project who asks

  483. pep.

    Guus: re neutrality, I don't think that's a problem. We can just say we'd funnel money for any xmpp-related project who asks

  484. Guus

    maybe take this to the list - also, we should definitely involve the treasurer before moving much further forward.

  485. MattJ

    I can write something up to throw at the list

  486. MattJ

    Also note that I've yet to actually hear back from them in writing (but they were extremly keen at the weekend)

  487. Guus

    Everything needs to start somewhere. Let's hope we can make this happen.

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  490. nyco-2

    https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/9ev2-xsfboarddirectorsweeklymeeting-2020-02-06 only one review?

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  492. pep.

    I've seen the typo :)

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  495. MattJ

    LGTM (apart from the typos :) )

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  498. nyco-2


  499. nyco-2 is sending the minutes

  500. nyco-2

    aaaand, sent thx all

  501. Guus

    Thank you nyco-2

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