dwdDaniel and Guus's emails on '198 almost made me spit my tea over my keyboard.
dwdBut also, yeah, Pando is 100% mobile at the moment and uses 198 resumption because Hospital Wifi is even worse than Guus's parents'.
KevThat sounds like a pretty unanimous "I should be using DNS challenges". I'll look into it when I have some cycles - which is certainly not this week. Today is "playing Gloomhaven all day before doing night two of the show" day.
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jonas’Yes, you should be using DNS challenge
Kev👍
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Guusdwd, if Pando is interested in selling my Parents' wifi to their customers as an upgrade, let me know.
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jonas’I wonder what would happen if I made a MUC roon service *send* a presence-join to another MUC room
jonas’from playing the scenario in my head, this might end up with a very bare bones bridge between the rooms
jonas’all messages from the respectively "remote" room will appear under the same nickname
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fippodmuc or fmuc probably have lengthy xml examples for that
jonas’are they based on that pattern?
ZashYes
ZashAt least one of them
jonas’interesting
jonas’I'd like to have a read-only aggregate feed of all the XSF MUCs and I was wondering on how to implement that
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Guusjonas’ what you're suggesting would affect all users of the MUCs. Maybe aggregrate through archiving instead?
ZashPoll MAM? Hm
jonas’Guus: sure, I didn't mean to *implement* it that way
jonas’it just crossed my mind while thinking about iz✎
jonas’it just crossed my mind while thinking about it ✏
Guuslike fippo, what you suggested made me think of XEP-0289
Guusshould be feasible.
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dwdjonas’, Don't you end up with FMUC, sort of?
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dwdjonas’, But also, it's unclear to me you could hold an archive of someone else's room within GDPR. Looks very sketchy on that basis.
moparisthebestso just have someone in US or UK do it
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dwdmoparisthebest, UK is covered by GDPR anyway, but besides, it's not quite the point.
Guusmopar might be referring to a news snippet that I've read this morning
dwdGuus, Google thing? Yeah. Unclear WTF is happening as usual.
Guussomething about the <something> moving data from ireland to the US to no longer need to be compliant with privacy legislation post brexit.
dwdGuus, But for now, at least, DPA-2018 covers us for GDPR under the same regime as GDPR.
moparisthebestlaws aside, I'm not sure how someone can post something in a public channel open to anyone and reasonably assume one of those members might not keep+share it
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jonas’dwd: if the room is public I don't see a gdpr issue
jonas’the data was "manifestly made public" IMO
jonas’also, I'd probably only keep archives for sync purposes and otherwise only relay live data
moparisthebestthat seems right, room owner is making it available for download for anyone on the internet to grab already
dwdjonas’, Would it still be subject to a SAR, etc? I think probably, and in addition, correction rights etc might exist.
jonas’dwd: probably. hence only keep sync archives
jonas’then there is a technical reason for non-deletion and correction can be done by the user through (ab-)use of LMC
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jonas’do folks think it’d be useful to announce editor messages in this channel, too? (in addition to standards@)
lovetoxjonas’, do you plan changes on the muclumbus http api?
jonas’lovetox, no
lovetoxgreat
lovetoxand the xmpp api will migrate to the xep you just propsed i guess?
jonas’yes
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jonas’does anyone know if we (Editors) need Board and/or Council Approval for this? https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/896/files
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GuusI don't know, but I'd be surprised. This is a change to tooling, not so much to published specifications.
jonas’it’s changing how we suggest people write their XEPs tho
jonas’xep-template.xml is a suggestion
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Guussure - but it doesn't affect the actual process of acceptance of the XEP.
Guusfor that, we still have Council.
GuusDo previous changes to that file make reference to approval of anyone?
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jonas’nope
MattJGo for it. If you want a clear conscience, just post to standards@ about the update