XSF Discussion - 2020-04-10

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09:10:35 Neustradamus I am very happy to see a lot of softwares/libraries (not only about XMPP) which add SCRAM support, SCRAM-SHA-256 and SCRAM-SHA-1 for compatibility with historic servers.
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12:51:40 Ge0rG Historic servers like jabberd 1.4
12:52:51 Maranda :O
12:56:51 Neustradamus Ge0rG: -> https://jabberd.org/
12:58:42 Ge0rG It's more active than yaxim. Bummer.
13:02:53 MattJ Was it Freshmeat that used to have that "vitality" scoring algorithm?
13:05:45 Zash Could be, the front page has a "Most Vital Projects" listing.
13:09:25 Maranda Is it based on commits? 🐈
13:09:32 Maranda 😂
13:10:13 MattJ Just found it
13:10:19 MattJ "((announcements * age) / (last_announcement))^(1/2) The number of announcements a project has made is multiplied by the number of days it has existed in the database, which is then divided by the days passed since the last release. This way, projects with lots of announcements that have been around for a long time and have recently come out with a new release earn a high vitality score, and old projects that have only been announced once get a low vitality score."
13:10:54 Maranda Oh dear
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13:11:11 Maranda 🤦🏼‍♂️
13:13:25 Maranda one could bring out releases without making announcements
13:14:22 MattJ For a website devoted to release announcements, that would be pretty pointless :)
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13:16:27 Maranda I suppose that's what "Freshmeat" website was solely for then.
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13:17:29 MattJ Yes
13:18:56 Maranda I find it rather time consuming to blog out every single minor release, so I guess that would pull me way down on that list 🤷‍♂️
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16:00:58 moparisthebest sounds like a job for a git hook :)
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16:11:00 Maranda At that rate just peek for tags already not announcements so I'm not bothered to make a template for announcements, the value would be the same
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17:46:15 flow are there (github) MUC badges? any recommendations?
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17:46:56 Zash Badge like this https://chat.prosody.im/badge ?
17:47:54 flow ~~Zash, yes, exactly like thi?~~ ✎
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17:48:09 flow Zash, yes, exactly like this ✏
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17:48:26 wurstsalat flow, https://modules.prosody.im/mod_muc_badge.html
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17:48:30 Zash That one is generated by https://modules.prosody.im/mod_muc_badge.html
17:48:36 Zash There's also https://opkode.com/blog/xmpp-chat-badge/
17:51:09 flow thanks, very helpful
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21:27:04 pep. TIL content/pages/about/xsf/records/council-votes/ That'S interesting. And all other things under records/ actually
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21:36:04 pep. Can somebody test https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/697 ? I just can't build the website locally
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22:28:29 xsf pep., I had to write a package for ghp for my distro but Ill test rn
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22:33:42 xsf the instructions in the readme are incomplete? I had to run make html and then make serve for it to work. Should I send a PR?
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22:35:39 pep. Or make `make serve` depend on `make html`
22:36:43 pep. Even with that I can't get it to work anyway.. I don't know if it's the pelican version we're using that way too old, or me not just being able to make the stars align or..
22:36:56 xsf pep., I sent my feedback to the author of the PR
22:37:10 xsf it's on the github page
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22:44:12 xsf pep., is there anything specific you want me to test?
22:44:29 pep. the PR? see if it works as expected :p
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22:44:47 pep. Not you specially, anybody, but yeah that was the idea
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22:45:27 pep. If anybody actually manages to build the website somehow
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22:53:09 Guus Now in bed, but I've provided two ways to build the websites reliably on the past: using Vagrant, and using docker. Hopefully at least one of them still works.
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22:54:11 Guus A recurring problem is that people tend to build the website with a version of Pelican that is "to new". Typically, this results in a navigation bar that is missing most items.
22:55:02 pep. Yeah, maybe someday somebody(tm) will manage to update that. That's also a recurring issue, not looking into keeping things up-to-date and then having to live in the past forever until somebody else starts anew
22:55:53 pep. Of course I'm not just talking about the XSF here :)
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23:01:10 phpdevel Hi, I'm interested in any working XMPP PHP library to build a notification system againts Prosody rooms... Any advice on which lib to use?
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23:02:18 xsf ya, I downloaded the latest version of pelican. I will add looking into fixing the navbar to my long list of foss contributions I want to make...
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23:06:24 phpdevel I've already tested some (very old) github projects but none seems to work nowaday
23:08:04 phpdevel I need to send messages from a webservice to rooms in prosody server...
23:08:11 xsf phpdevel, https://xmpp.org/software/libraries.html . It seems that there's no php library on the xmpp website...
23:08:12 phpdevel any suggestion?
23:08:18 xsf If you find a good one, please submit
23:08:56 xsf Im sure one exists, might just have to do some digging
23:09:17 phpdevel already visited that page, and spotted there is no PHP recommended lib there
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23:11:52 phpdevel xsf, thanks...
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23:13:39 xsf phpdevel, like I said, that page is likely the best information we have. If you cant find it there, you have to wait for someone to answer. Your best bet is doing some digging, finding a library, and document it on that page so others dont have to go through what you went through.
23:13:44 xsf I know movim uses php
23:13:52 xsf perhaps look at what libraries they are using?
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23:15:32 phpdevel ok.. thanks again (taking a look right now)
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23:16:24 xsf ya, movim is a great xmpp project so their library is probably good
23:19:19 phpdevel I wasn't aware of Movim... looks like a big thing!
23:19:41 phpdevel I'm clonning it right now and will follow your advise.
23:19:49 phpdevel thanks again
23:20:08 xsf no worries. Remember to contribute your findings!
23:20:26 xsf thats the best way to thank me 🙂
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23:22:59 phpdevel sure, but will need some testing before recommend it. 😉
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