XSF Discussion - 2020-04-10

I am very happy to see a lot of softwares/libraries (not only about XMPP) which add SCRAM support, SCRAM-SHA-256 and SCRAM-SHA-1 for compatibility with historic servers.

Historic servers like jabberd 1.4

:O

Ge0rG: -> https://jabberd.org/

It's more active than yaxim. Bummer.

Was it Freshmeat that used to have that "vitality" scoring algorithm?

Could be, the front page has a "Most Vital Projects" listing.

Is it based on commits? 🐈

😂

Just found it

"((announcements * age) / (last_announcement))^(1/2) The number of announcements a project has made is multiplied by the number of days it has existed in the database, which is then divided by the days passed since the last release. This way, projects with lots of announcements that have been around for a long time and have recently come out with a new release earn a high vitality score, and old projects that have only been announced once get a low vitality score."

Oh dear

🤦🏼‍♂️

one could bring out releases without making announcements

For a website devoted to release announcements, that would be pretty pointless :)

I suppose that's what "Freshmeat" website was solely for then.

Yes

I find it rather time consuming to blog out every single minor release, so I guess that would pull me way down on that list 🤷‍♂️

sounds like a job for a git hook :)

At that rate just peek for tags already not announcements so I'm not bothered to make a template for announcements, the value would be the same

are there (github) MUC badges? any recommendations?

Badge like this https://chat.prosody.im/badge ?

Zash, yes, exactly like this ✏

flow, https://modules.prosody.im/mod_muc_badge.html

That one is generated by https://modules.prosody.im/mod_muc_badge.html

There's also https://opkode.com/blog/xmpp-chat-badge/

thanks, very helpful

TIL content/pages/about/xsf/records/council-votes/ That'S interesting. And all other things under records/ actually

Can somebody test https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/697 ? I just can't build the website locally

pep., I had to write a package for ghp for my distro but Ill test rn

the instructions in the readme are incomplete? I had to run make html and then make serve for it to work. Should I send a PR?

Or make `make serve` depend on `make html`

Even with that I can't get it to work anyway.. I don't know if it's the pelican version we're using that way too old, or me not just being able to make the stars align or..

pep., I sent my feedback to the author of the PR

it's on the github page

pep., is there anything specific you want me to test?

the PR? see if it works as expected :p

Not you specially, anybody, but yeah that was the idea

If anybody actually manages to build the website somehow

Now in bed, but I've provided two ways to build the websites reliably on the past: using Vagrant, and using docker. Hopefully at least one of them still works.

A recurring problem is that people tend to build the website with a version of Pelican that is "to new". Typically, this results in a navigation bar that is missing most items.

Yeah, maybe someday somebody(tm) will manage to update that. That's also a recurring issue, not looking into keeping things up-to-date and then having to live in the past forever until somebody else starts anew

Of course I'm not just talking about the XSF here :)

Hi, I'm interested in any working XMPP PHP library to build a notification system againts Prosody rooms... Any advice on which lib to use?

ya, I downloaded the latest version of pelican. I will add looking into fixing the navbar to my long list of foss contributions I want to make...

I've already tested some (very old) github projects but none seems to work nowaday

I need to send messages from a webservice to rooms in prosody server...

phpdevel, https://xmpp.org/software/libraries.html . It seems that there's no php library on the xmpp website...

any suggestion?

If you find a good one, please submit

Im sure one exists, might just have to do some digging

already visited that page, and spotted there is no PHP recommended lib there

xsf, thanks...

phpdevel, like I said, that page is likely the best information we have. If you cant find it there, you have to wait for someone to answer. Your best bet is doing some digging, finding a library, and document it on that page so others dont have to go through what you went through.

I know movim uses php

perhaps look at what libraries they are using?

ok.. thanks again (taking a look right now)

ya, movim is a great xmpp project so their library is probably good

I wasn't aware of Movim... looks like a big thing!

I'm clonning it right now and will follow your advise.

thanks again

no worries. Remember to contribute your findings!

thats the best way to thank me 🙂

sure, but will need some testing before recommend it. 😉