tomGajim does work, and it's UI is atrocious. Not sure if it' still an issue with Pidgin but I always seem to run into issues when people use Pidgin on XMPP
pep.I might not be available for the meeting today.
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ralphmpep., live happens. No worries!
ralphmlife, too :/
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ralphmbangs gavel
ralphm0. Welcome
ralphmHi! Who do we have?
MattJo/
emusHello o/
emusBut actually Im in a meeting now
Guus\o
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GuusShame on our glorious leader for being ambiguous 🙂
ralphm:-D
ralphmSeve?
SeveHello! I'm here, thanks for the mention, ralphm !
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ralphm1. Minute taker
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Guus🦗
GuusNone from the floor?
GuusIf not, I'll compile them post meeting.
ralphmThanks
ralphm2. Commitments
ralphmI've sent out a bunch of e-mails around sponsoring.
ralphmNaturally I forgot to change the subject for the one to the community :/
GuusNoted, tx
MattJralphm, I saw that, thanks for working on it!
SeveYes!
ralphmI also reached out to my contact for marketing today, too. Will report back when I get a reply.
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MattJNot sure if you got my PM the other day, but I know someone who may be a good fit also
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SeveGreat, nice to hear that
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Guusprods ralphm
ralphmMattJ, thanks, I neglected to follow-up with you, sorry.
MattJNo worries
ralphmLet's pick that up for next week.
MattJSounds good
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ralphm3. Topics for decisions
ralphm{}
ralphm4. Discussion
ralphmI don't think there's something specific we need to discuss today, but any suggestions welcome.
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Guuscan we put the older ones to bed?
Guuslike adopt a character
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flowohhh :(
Guuswhat do we need to decide on that?
GuusNot saying yay or nay, just want to decide.
flowI think it's a pitty, but if there is no consensus on that
SeveWhich character to pick, was what we needed to decide, wasn't it
Guuskeeping it on the agenda forever doesn't make sense.
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Guusso that implies that we are in favor of doing this?
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Guuslet's make this concrete?
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SeveThat is what I recall, but correct me if I'm wronf✎
SeveThat is what I recall, but correct me if I'm wrong ✏
GuusI'd like to either vote, or have a concrete action that will lead to some form of progress.
flowIf this is really just about the which character, and not if we want to do this, then I suggest we ask people to submit suggestions and then hold a member opinion vote about which character to choose. (hint: I would volunteer to organize that)
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flowBut I don't want to put in time for this if no character is adopted in the end
ralphmI think we even decided on the character, but I need to look up which (not the one in the trello comment)
MattJThe last minutes I see say this: "Ralph notes that there is probably enough support to ask the community on what character they would like."
MattJ2019-09-12
ralphmok, so many I was wrong :-D
MattJIn which case if flow wants to take this to the community for us, that would be great :)
GuusI motion that we have Florian organize a community-driven character-for-adoption vote.
MattJ+1
SeveSounds super flow !
flowGuus, i'd like to stress that I envison only a member opinion vote, to which the board is not bound to follow
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Guusflow wfm
ralphmyay
ralphmRegarding iteam budget, I believe MattJ would back on this?
Guus'sounds super' and 'yay' count as votes?
ralphm+1
MattJNo concrete plan yet for iteam, partly this depends on whether we'll ever hear back about eos (the down server)
Seve+1
ralphmGuus: what about your wfm?
ralphm(you need to vote on motions you put forward yourself, too)
GuusI put in the motion - isn't that an implied +1?
ralphmno
Guusah, sorry.
Guuswell, +1.
Guus🙂
ralphmok
ralphmMattJ thanks
ralphm5. AOB
Guuswhile we have flow here: gsoc status?
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Guusso, mentions of unicode make him appear, but mentions of his nickname do not? 🙂
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GuusI'm happy to move on.
Guusno other aobs for me.
ralphm6. Date of Next
ralphm+1W
ralphm7. Close
ralphmbangs gavel
ralphmThanks all!
SeveNone from me then :)
ralphm:-D
SeveThank you very much!
ralphmToo slow, Seve
MattJThanks!
Guusthanks 😉
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Seve;D
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MattJGuus, does Openfire support direct TLS for s2s?
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GuusMattJ Yes, but I think it's broken.
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MattJOk :)
GuusIt's rather new - older servers won't have support
MattJConsidering using it for a deployment, currently only needs to federate with Prosody and Openfire (Prosody doesn't support it yet, I wondered if Openfire did)
GuusYou're considering Openfire for a deployment?!
GuusGiven your background, that kind of surprises me 🙂
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GuusWe'll probably going to rewrite large parts of Openfire's s2s code later this year
GuusThat's badly needed - we're securing funding to do so.
MattJNo, sorry, I should have been clearer - I'm considering using Direct TLS for a deployment
MattJThat deployment runs Prosody, but needs to federate with Prosody and Openfire
Guusah. 🙂
MattJNormal s2s wouldn't work
MattJIf you're rewriting s2s, join us in deprecating dialback :)
MattJ(I imagine that will go down well with many of your customers)
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MarandaHmmm it's around from over 2 years... Is that new?
pep.Rather not necessary
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pep.not *extremely necessary
MarandaI meant Direct TLS
pep.yes
MarandaI think I implemented Direct TLS in s2s around 2018 or so
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MattJpep.: it makes life a lot easier in some cases when you need to offload TLS
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flowGuus, I am sorry, got distracted by another telco. gsoc summary is that we have one excellent proposal and a good one, so we requested a maximum of two slots and a minimum of one. gsoc participation is a bit lower than the previous years, but the involved projects are motivated to mentor the respective students (if we get the slots)
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Guusflow Thanks! Let's hope we get both slots!
pep.MattJ, my point. You're only talking about implementing now, when it's been available for "that long", so it's only a nice to have
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Link MauvePing about https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/697
Link MauveI think it’s good to go.
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Link Mauveralphm, fyi https://idavoll.ik.nu/ is still 503, you may want to fix that.