XSF Discussion - 2020-04-26

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  267. MattJ The Github folk have detached xsf/memberbot from Link Mauve's repo
  268. jonas’ \o/
  269. Link Mauve Great, now I can delete my repo!
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  363. marc Can somebody recommend a XMPP library for low level testing?
  364. marc preferably Python
  365. marc aioxmpp seems quite high-level
  366. jonas’ marc, what kind of low-level testing?
  367. marc jonas’, sending packets (not IQ) before authentication
  368. lovetox you mean a xmpp lib you can hack to do that
  369. lovetox or one that provides a API for send_packet_before_auth()
  370. pep. or something with send_raw()
  371. marc lovetox, yeah, something like send_raw()
  372. marc especially I don't want to authenticate
  373. pep. There's probably an escape hatch like that on every library around, I'd hope
  374. lovetox you would still need a lib that lets you use this at that special moment
  375. jonas’ marc, maybe look into how IBR is implemented in aioxmpp
  376. pep. Even if it encourages you not to use it
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  378. jonas’ https://github.com/horazont/aioxmpp/blob/devel/aioxmpp/ibr/service.py#L65 https://github.com/horazont/aioxmpp/blob/devel/examples/register.py#L34-L40
  379. lovetox oh thats a good idea
  380. jonas’ aioxmpp.IQ isn’t special in that way, you can send any XSO really at that point
  381. MattJ lovetox: I've sent you a few messages over the past week, did you receive them?
  382. jonas’ lovetox, while I’ve got you here, is there a way to turn off autojoining MUCs for (only) one account in gajim?
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  384. lovetox not as setting no, you would have to add a line to the code
  385. jonas’ :/
  386. jonas’ I like how my pidgin doesn’t understand bookmarks ;D
  387. lovetox MattJ, yes received it i answerd you
  388. lovetox MattJ, yes received it i answerd you, just now
  389. MattJ Ah, thanks!
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  392. lovetox jonas’, why you need that?
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  396. jonas’ lovetox, I am used to poezio for MUCs, but I’d like to use something else for 1:1
  397. pep. jonas’, anything in particular that we could use as feedback for poezio?
  398. jonas’ so I want gajim to *not* join all my MUCs; but only on that account, because my other accounts are (obviously) not in poezio, and I want to be able in those MUCs
  399. jonas’ pep., no, that’s not going to be solvable
  400. jonas’ it’s just me trying to keep the number of windows in poezio sane
  401. lovetox pep., dont steal my users
  402. pep. lovetox, you're stealing mine
  403. lovetox you had your chance
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  405. pep. I'll get my revenge
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  407. jonas’ you’d co-exist, just like poezio and pidgin co-exist on my desktop now, so don’t fight please
  408. jonas’ :)
  409. pep. :)
  410. pep. lovetox, I'll let you off for now
  411. lovetox :D
  412. lovetox jonas’, i can only offer you to point you to the line in the code where you could add the line that it skips one special account
  413. jonas’ lovetox, I’m afraid dpkg won’t be happy about that in the long term
  414. lovetox marc, what do you understand under send_raw()
  415. lovetox you want to send bytes?
  416. pep. lovetox, iirc his XEP uses some before-bind-iq-like stuff
  417. marc lovetox, no, xml elements
  418. pep. like iq but not in jabber:foo
  419. lovetox yeah you can do that with nbxmpp, thanks to the hint form jonas’
  420. lovetox if you use nbxmpp in the REGISTER mode
  421. lovetox it will connect to the server and give you control before auth
  422. marc jonas’, mentioned aioxmpp, no?
  423. lovetox as there is no auth in register mode
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  426. lovetox yeah im sure you can do the same with aioxmpp
  427. lovetox just wanted to tell you, that you also can do with nbxmpp
  428. lovetox but maybe try first with aioxmpp, its probably way better documented
  429. marc there are too many xmpp libraries for python :)
  430. marc jonas’, is there a way to send basic xml elements? something like Element(name = '', attrs = ...)
  431. marc I don't get the idea behind XSO :)
  432. jonas’ marc, XSO is just a way to write down a skeleton for XML elements
  433. jonas’ https://github.com/horazont/aioxmpp/blob/devel/aioxmpp/ping/xso.py#L31-L38 that’s an example which simply defines the XML element <ping xmlns="urn:xmpp:ping"/>; it doesn’t have text or children
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  435. jonas’ if you’ve ever used something like Storm or SQLAlchemy, the ideas behind XSO are very similar
  436. marc Okay, got it, thanks!
  437. jonas’ marc, aioxmpp/version/xso.py would be the next-more-complex example of an XSO
  438. marc jonas’, there is no simpler way to generate xml elements, no?
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  440. jonas’ marc, it’s the simplest way ever
  441. jonas’ ;-)
  442. jonas’ no, you need to go through XSO. the only other way is to write SAX events yourself.
  443. jonas’ XSOs are directly converted to SAX events, there is no DOM constructed at any point
  444. jonas’ (though if you’re into writing SAX events, you can do that, I suppose; you just need to go into the guts of the XMLStream itself)
  445. lovetox but actually jonas’ i have that ignore autojoin flag on my todo list
  446. pep. > where ``namespace_uri`` may be :data:`None`. Interesting that you're not enforcing namespaces in TAGs
  447. jonas’ pep., it’ll fail during serialisation in most cases of an xml stream
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  449. jonas’ as soon as the default namespace has been declared, you can’t serialise elements without namespace URI anymore. which is right at the stream header in XMPP XML streams.
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  460. marc jonas’, can I access xso attrs by simply using the XSO class member variables?
  461. marc I want to sent the attr but when I send the packet it hangs
  462. marc it works without attrs
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  464. marc ah, and can I enable a traffic console that shows me the xml traffic sent / received?
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  470. marc jonas’, ah, already found it!
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