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The Github folk have detached xsf/memberbot from Link Mauve's repo
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\o/
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Great, now I can delete my repo!
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marc
19:26:45
Can somebody recommend a XMPP library for low level testing?
marc
19:27:03
preferably Python
marc
19:27:10
aioxmpp seems quite high-level
jonas’
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marc, what kind of low-level testing?
marc
19:27:41
jonas’, sending packets (not IQ) before authentication
lovetox
19:28:48
you mean a xmpp lib you can hack to do that
lovetox
19:28:59
or one that provides a API for send_packet_before_auth()
pep.
19:29:08
or something with send_raw()
marc
19:29:24
lovetox, yeah, something like send_raw()
marc
19:29:32
especially I don't want to authenticate
pep.
19:29:34
There's probably an escape hatch like that on every library around, I'd hope
lovetox
19:29:41
you would still need a lib that lets you use this at that special moment
jonas’
19:29:46
marc, maybe look into how IBR is implemented in aioxmpp
pep.
19:29:50
Even if it encourages you not to use it
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jonas’
19:30:21
https://github.com/horazont/aioxmpp/blob/devel/aioxmpp/ibr/service.py#L65
https://github.com/horazont/aioxmpp/blob/devel/examples/register.py#L34-L40
lovetox
19:32:17
oh thats a good idea
jonas’
19:32:27
aioxmpp.IQ isn’t special in that way, you can send any XSO really at that point
MattJ
19:33:16
lovetox: I've sent you a few messages over the past week, did you receive them?
jonas’
19:33:49
lovetox, while I’ve got you here, is there a way to turn off autojoining MUCs for (only) one account in gajim?
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lovetox
19:34:41
not as setting no, you would have to add a line to the code
jonas’
19:35:04
:/
jonas’
19:35:15
I like how my pidgin doesn’t understand bookmarks ;D
lovetox
19:36:22
MattJ, yes received it i answerd you ✎
lovetox
19:36:38
MattJ, yes received it i answerd you, just now ✏
MattJ
19:36:56
Ah, thanks!
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lovetox
19:39:59
jonas’, why you need that?
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jonas’
19:43:07
lovetox, I am used to poezio for MUCs, but I’d like to use something else for 1:1
pep.
19:43:30
jonas’, anything in particular that we could use as feedback for poezio?
jonas’
19:43:34
so I want gajim to *not* join all my MUCs; but only on that account, because my other accounts are (obviously) not in poezio, and I want to be able in those MUCs
jonas’
19:43:45
pep., no, that’s not going to be solvable
jonas’
19:44:02
it’s just me trying to keep the number of windows in poezio sane
lovetox
19:44:04
pep., dont steal my users
pep.
19:44:12
lovetox, you're stealing mine
lovetox
19:44:18
you had your chance
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pep.
19:44:36
I'll get my revenge
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jonas’
19:44:59
you’d co-exist, just like poezio and pidgin co-exist on my desktop now, so don’t fight please
jonas’
19:45:00
:)
pep.
19:45:22
:)
pep.
19:45:34
lovetox, I'll let you off for now
lovetox
19:45:39
:D
lovetox
19:47:05
jonas’, i can only offer you to point you to the line in the code where you could add the line that it skips one special account
jonas’
19:47:47
lovetox, I’m afraid dpkg won’t be happy about that in the long term
lovetox
19:48:43
marc, what do you understand under send_raw()
lovetox
19:49:07
you want to send bytes?
pep.
19:49:08
lovetox, iirc his XEP uses some before-bind-iq-like stuff
marc
19:49:16
lovetox, no, xml elements
pep.
19:49:22
like iq but not in jabber:foo
lovetox
19:49:32
yeah you can do that with nbxmpp, thanks to the hint form jonas’
lovetox
19:49:39
if you use nbxmpp in the REGISTER mode
lovetox
19:49:50
it will connect to the server and give you control before auth
marc
19:49:53
jonas’, mentioned aioxmpp, no?
lovetox
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as there is no auth in register mode
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lovetox
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yeah im sure you can do the same with aioxmpp
lovetox
19:50:29
just wanted to tell you, that you also can do with nbxmpp
lovetox
19:51:21
but maybe try first with aioxmpp, its probably way better documented
marc
19:51:28
there are too many xmpp libraries for python :)
marc
19:54:00
jonas’, is there a way to send basic xml elements? something like Element(name = '', attrs = ...)
marc
19:54:09
I don't get the idea behind XSO :)
jonas’
19:54:20
marc, XSO is just a way to write down a skeleton for XML elements
jonas’
19:55:28
https://github.com/horazont/aioxmpp/blob/devel/aioxmpp/ping/xso.py#L31-L38 that’s an example which simply defines the XML element <ping xmlns="urn:xmpp:ping"/>; it doesn’t have text or children
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jonas’
19:56:15
if you’ve ever used something like Storm or SQLAlchemy, the ideas behind XSO are very similar
marc
19:57:25
Okay, got it, thanks!
jonas’
19:57:43
marc, aioxmpp/version/xso.py would be the next-more-complex example of an XSO
marc
19:58:18
jonas’, there is no simpler way to generate xml elements, no?
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marc, it’s the simplest way ever
jonas’
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;-)
jonas’
19:59:38
no, you need to go through XSO. the only other way is to write SAX events yourself.
jonas’
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XSOs are directly converted to SAX events, there is no DOM constructed at any point
jonas’
20:00:27
(though if you’re into writing SAX events, you can do that, I suppose; you just need to go into the guts of the XMLStream itself)
lovetox
20:00:53
but actually jonas’ i have that ignore autojoin flag on my todo list
pep.
20:00:56
> where ``namespace_uri`` may be :data:`None`.
Interesting that you're not enforcing namespaces in TAGs
jonas’
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pep., it’ll fail during serialisation in most cases of an xml stream
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as soon as the default namespace has been declared, you can’t serialise elements without namespace URI anymore. which is right at the stream header in XMPP XML streams.
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marc
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jonas’, can I access xso attrs by simply using the XSO class member variables?
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I want to sent the attr but when I send the packet it hangs
marc
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it works without attrs
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ah, and can I enable a traffic console that shows me the xml traffic sent / received?
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jonas’, ah, already found it!
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