XSF Discussion - 2020-04-29


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  370. marc Ge0rG, MattJ, how would an error element for 389 look like? Just <error type='foobar'/> or is it <stream:error type='foobar'/>?
  371. MattJ Unless the error is intended to close the stream (which I doubt), then I'd borrow from https://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#stanzas-error
  372. marc MattJ, thanks for the reference!
  373. Ge0rG Which is exactly why I used IQ syntax initially
  374. MattJ I maintain that any sensible library would be able to understand an error element whatever it is wrapped in
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  384. flow like any nonza that contains an error element is handled as an error?
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  388. MattJ I don't think you can do that necessarily, no
  389. MattJ Isn't an unrecognised nonza stream-fatal already?
  390. flow then I probably do not follow
  391. flow good question, is it desirable? if so, the nonza xep should potentially recommend it
  392. flow IIRC smack currently just logs it
  393. flow but then again, why not do the same if you get an unexpected message with an unsupported payload? is that different from an unexpected nonza? probably yes
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  396. flow of course, stanza a routable, you wouldn't want to disconnect if you get an "unexpected" message
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  399. flow whereas nonzas aren't
  400. flow argl xep389 uses numeric IDs… and no schema at all
  401. marc flow, sam is open for discussion about 389, please bring up your feedback on the ML or directly to sam
  402. flow and there is no specification for the error case if the client uses an invalid id in register
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  404. flow marc, i'll use the ML once I find the time
  405. marc flow, nice, please do
  406. Ge0rG unread mails on standards@ in my inbox: 4006
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  408. MattJ flow, https://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#streams-error-conditions-unsupported-stanza-type is what I meant
  409. MattJ But it doesn't explcitly mention the server->client direction
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  423. flow MattJ, I think rfc6120 § 4.9.3.24 is sufficient for me to make smack stream-error on unknown *nonzas*
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  426. flow but what about *unexpected* nonzas?
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  498. DebXWoody Hi. Which XML namespaces can I use during development of a new "maybe" XEP - what is requited to get a "urn:xmpp:*" namespace?
  499. pep. getting accepted as a XEP is all that you need to be able to use urn:xmpp:* (or getting another formal approval from the XSF I guess). Just use whatever you see fit for you potential XEP, at least in the document.
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  502. pep. I'd say in documents you're proposing always use urn:xmpp, but in deployments use something else as long as it's not accepted(?)
  503. DebXWoody pep., ACK, thanks.
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  505. Zash > Registration of protocol namespaces is initiated by the XMPP Extensions Editor when a XEP advances to Draft or Active. haha what
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  510. flow pep.> I'd say in documents you're proposing always use urn:xmpp, but in deployments use something else as long as it's not accepted(?) I'd actually say it is fine to use urn:xmpp:* there too, as you then do not have to change the namespace on acceptance
  511. flow DebXWoody, ^
  512. pep. But you'd change on refusal?
  513. flow Probably not
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