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marc
Ge0rG, MattJ, how would an error element for 389 look like? Just <error type='foobar'/> or is it <stream:error type='foobar'/>?
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MattJ
Unless the error is intended to close the stream (which I doubt), then I'd borrow from https://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#stanzas-error
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marc
MattJ, thanks for the reference!
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Ge0rG
Which is exactly why I used IQ syntax initially
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MattJ
I maintain that any sensible library would be able to understand an error element whatever it is wrapped in
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flow
like any nonza that contains an error element is handled as an error?
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MattJ
I don't think you can do that necessarily, no
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Isn't an unrecognised nonza stream-fatal already?
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flow
then I probably do not follow
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good question, is it desirable? if so, the nonza xep should potentially recommend it
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flow
IIRC smack currently just logs it
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flow
but then again, why not do the same if you get an unexpected message with an unsupported payload? is that different from an unexpected nonza? probably yes
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flow
of course, stanza a routable, you wouldn't want to disconnect if you get an "unexpected" message
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flow
whereas nonzas aren't
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flow
argl xep389 uses numeric IDs… and no schema at all
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marc
flow, sam is open for discussion about 389, please bring up your feedback on the ML or directly to sam
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flow
and there is no specification for the error case if the client uses an invalid id in register
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flow
marc, i'll use the ML once I find the time
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flow, nice, please do
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unread mails on standards@ in my inbox: 4006
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flow, https://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6120.html#streams-error-conditions-unsupported-stanza-type is what I meant
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But it doesn't explcitly mention the server->client direction
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MattJ, I think rfc6120 § 4.9.3.24 is sufficient for me to make smack stream-error on unknown *nonzas*
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but what about *unexpected* nonzas?
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Hi. Which XML namespaces can I use during development of a new "maybe" XEP - what is requited to get a "urn:xmpp:*" namespace?
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pep.
getting accepted as a XEP is all that you need to be able to use urn:xmpp:* (or getting another formal approval from the XSF I guess). Just use whatever you see fit for you potential XEP, at least in the document.
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pep.
I'd say in documents you're proposing always use urn:xmpp, but in deployments use something else as long as it's not accepted(?)
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DebXWoody
pep., ACK, thanks.
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Zash
> Registration of protocol namespaces is initiated by the XMPP Extensions Editor when a XEP advances to Draft or Active.
haha what
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flow
pep.> I'd say in documents you're proposing always use urn:xmpp, but in deployments use something else as long as it's not accepted(?)
I'd actually say it is fine to use urn:xmpp:* there too, as you then do not have to change the namespace on acceptance
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DebXWoody, ^
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pep.
But you'd change on refusal?
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Probably not
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