XSF Discussion - 2020-05-15


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  184. pep. 6121 doesn't seem to include a rationale as to why it's not possible to add multiple roster items at the same time. Any idea?
  185. pep. Slightly more fine-grained errors? Even if it's already possible for one error reply to mean multiple things
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  194. adiaholic_ Hello everyone, I'm Aditya Borikar, a candidate for gsoc 2020. I plan on having my weekly logs put up at https://adiaholic.github.io/gsoc2020/ Is it possible that we add this to planet.jabber.org ?
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  201. Ge0rG ralphm: ^
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  203. Ge0rG adiaholic_: in case you don't get an immediate response from ralphm in here, you might also write directly to ralphm@ik.nu (Jabber and e-mail).
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  210. adiaholic_ Ge0rG: Alright. Thanks alot 😀
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  227. ralphm adiaholic_, I added the feed and it should pop up for the next poll cycle. Thanks!
  228. vanitasvitae 🎉️
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  230. adiaholic_ Yayy !
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  242. pep. MattJ, I only ask here because we talked about it in another channel (I don't have time to allocate right now for this), will it be possible in MAM to configure storage duration etc.? So it's not just a boolean (store / don't store)
  243. pep. MattJ, I only ask here because we talked about it in another channel (I don't have time to allocate right now to this), will it be possible in MAM to configure storage duration etc.? So it's not just a boolean (store / don't store)
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  246. pep. Is that at least something you'd see in or around MAM
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  253. MattJ pep., yes, but not in 313
  254. MattJ store/don't store is out of 313 now - I don't like the routing/reliability implications those preferences have, and most clients (probably rightly) don't expose them to the user
  255. MattJ Message retention however is an important preference that should be available to the user
  256. MattJ I almost added it to 313 in the latest revision, but it got too complex and I left it out
  257. MattJ I'm planning an account preferences XEP, so I'll probably base it on that
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  277. rion Why xep-0414 (crypto funcs) says BLAKE2b256 is MUST and BLAKE2b512 is SHOULD while implementations do the opposite? openssl for example doesn't have BLAKE2b256 at all.
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  279. Link Mauve AIUI, blake2b doesn’t have specific bit lengths, it operates at some length and then the application truncates the final hash to the length of its choice.
  280. rion has forked QCA and doing some mods
  281. rion Link Mauve: I checked just openssl in details. There is hardcoded digest size to 64 bytes for blake2b
  282. Link Mauve That sounds unwanted.
  283. rion reference implementation supports variable digest length but it's terrible slow from my tests
  284. Link Mauve But I don’t know much more about this hash function, I just use the RustCrypto version of it.
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  289. jonas’ rion, I’m fairly certain to have tested that with python, which AIUI just uses openssl under the hood for the more "fun" hashes
  290. jonas’ rion, but I suppose we can change that if it poses an issue in practice
  291. Zash I'm only aware of blake2s256 and blake2b512 in OpenSSL, and I have had no reason to use them yet so that branche isn't merged
  292. rion Zash: yep. for 256 there is blake2s256. I believe it generates a different digest in comparison to blake2b256
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  295. rion Well I would agree to make blake2b512 MUST instead. I guess it should still work on x32 systems with reference implementation. Just not optimal. But it's quite widespread.
  296. jonas’ rion, can you make a PR against the XEP, ideally with data about various implementations and their support levels?
  297. jonas’ e.g. what about libressl?
  298. xnamed^ problem solved but why did you change the port from 5269 to 9269?
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  301. Zash xnamed^, it's been like that for as long as I can remember
  302. rion jonas’: not supported at all by libressl
  303. rion jonas’: I'll make a PR as soon as I finished with QCA which touches many implementations
  304. jonas’ thanks
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  346. MattJ Is someone around who could give me admin on wiki.xmpp.org?
  347. jonas’ MattJ, MattJ should be able to ^
  348. jonas’ (sorry, scnr)
  349. MattJ Yes, I don't feel like poking around in databases, but I guess it's a last resort
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  352. Ge0rG MattJ: are you talking of wiki admin or ssh on the box?
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  355. MattJ Wiki
  356. MattJ My account got lost during the Great Crash, and when it got recreated it was without admin privs
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  360. Ge0rG MattJ: according to https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bureaucrat you need to ping Alex, Kev or Xsfadminaccount
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  363. Kev .
  364. MattJ Don't worry, I just opened the docker stuff for an unrelated reason and found the password for xsfadminaccount :)
  365. MattJ (which I didn't know was a thing)
  366. Kev Oh, I added you to admins as soon as you asked, pretty much.
  367. MattJ Ok, thanks
  368. Kev Well, as soon as Ge0rG replied, actually.
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  370. Ge0rG A nice example for the effectiveness of name-dropping.
  371. Kev I'd rather you hadn't, TBH. I'm off work at the moment for personal reasons.
  372. Kev But yes, it was effective.
  373. Ge0rG Kev: sorry. Have a nice day :)
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  398. MattJ I turned xmpp.net back on, on the old server
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  403. MattJ Don't spoil everything
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  405. Zash inb4 load over 9000 as usual
  406. mathieui seems to work
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  428. MattJ Yay
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  576. Neustradamus_ xmpp.net is back!
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