Guus: me too, but my mobile client's keyboard will auto-capitalize
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Buttons^W Quick Responses ?
Ge0rG
Alex: two of the applicants have 2019 application links in place. Was that a deliberate move by the applicants or did they actually miss their deadline and didn't do anything?
Alex
let me check
Alex
@Ge0rG fixed, thans
Ge0rG
👍
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Syndace
> Buttons^W Quick Responses ?
soon (tm)
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Ge0rG
Why oh why did I parse that as "buttocks"?
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Guus
Freud?
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moparisthebest
apparantly gajim gives you the option to delete your account on the server, anyone know where "delete my account" is defined?
moparisthebest
I can only find https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0133.html#delete-user which seems to be only for administrators
moparisthebest
and https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/account-management.html#deletion which looks like it was never accepted
thanks Ge0rG ! that explains why my searching for "delete" found nothing...
Ge0rG
The "remove" is also well-hidden in the XML
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IBR security concerns could use some work, in practice how many servers actually ask for current password when changing your password and/or deleting your account?
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it gives a MAY up higher, but that seems like a pretty big security concern:
> A given deployment MAY choose to require additional information (such as the old password or previously-gathered personal information) before cancelling the registration. In order to do so, the server or service SHOULD return a Data Form in the error stanza
jonas’
Alex, memberbot doesn’t send presence to me
jonas’
(jonas@wielicki.name)
jonas’
that’s a first
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> does the bot accept "Yes" as a "yes" already?
I fixed it a few months ago? dunno if Alex is using it though
Ge0rG
Yes, it worked. Thanks very much!
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@jonas’ all looks good on my end. Also have done not modifications with memberbots roster
jonas’
hm
jonas’
I re-requested authorization, that hasn’t worked so far
Alex
@pep. not running the latest versions, I tried, but get exceptions when I ran it ofr testing. Still trying to find out whats going wrong. I think it may be related to chat states. Also, there is still a PR open from you.
Alex
I cherry pickted the Yes, No changes to the branch I run
jonas’
May 19 16:07:01 s2sin5578198878d0 debug Received[s2sin]: <presence type='unavailable' from='memberbot@xmpp.org' to='jonas@wielicki.name'>
jonas’
I’m getting straight type='unavailable' back on subscribe
jonas’
now it replies to me
jonas’
but still shows unavailable presence
jonas’
something is definitely weird
MattJ
> load_roster: loading for offline user: memberbot@xmpp.org
MattJ
(Prosody log)
jonas’
also it stopped replying again
Alex
@jonas' bot crashed, will be online again soon
jonas’
thanks
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I see memberbot & presence now
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@pep. this is what I get when I try to start a new coting session with the latest Memberbot code on Github:
```
2020-05-19 18:55:04,652 DEBUG RECV: <message xml:lang="en" to="memberbot@palaver.im/16903948272308590243398178" from="alex@palaver.im/gajim.ZV7K69RF" type="chat" id="5acded22-1e4a-4e4a-a9b3-d9110d2aca3f"><origin-id xmlns="urn:xmpp:sid:0" id="5acded22-1e4a-4e4a-a9b3-d9110d2aca3f" /><request xmlns="urn:xmpp:receipts" /><body>hi</body></message>
2020-05-19 18:55:04,654 DEBUG Event triggered: message
2020-05-19 18:55:04,655 DEBUG SEND: <message to="alex@palaver.im/gajim.ZV7K69RF" id="f9429227-baf9-4a1a-a03a-fc39894e8ae8-13" xml:lang="en"><composing xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/chatstates" /></message>
2020-05-19 18:55:04,657 DEBUG Looking up cached disco#info data for alex@palaver.im/gajim.ZV7K69RF, node .
2020-05-19 18:55:04,658 DEBUG SEND: <r xmlns="urn:xmpp:sm:3" />
2020-05-19 18:55:04,658 DEBUG SEND: <iq id="f9429227-baf9-4a1a-a03a-fc39894e8ae8-15" to="alex@palaver.im/gajim.ZV7K69RF" type="get"><query xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info" /></iq>
2020-05-19 18:55:04,659 DEBUG SEND: <message xml:lang="en" to="alex@palaver.im/gajim.ZV7K69RF" type="error" id="5acded22-1e4a-4e4a-a9b3-d9110d2aca3f"><error type="cancel"><undefined-condition xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas" /><text xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas">Slixmpp got into trouble.</text></error></message>
2020-05-19 18:55:04,660 ERROR Error handling {jabber:client}message stanza
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/alex/.local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/slixmpp/api.py", line 133, in run
return handler(jid, node, ifrom, args)
File "/home/alex/.local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/slixmpp/plugins/xep_0115/static.py", line 73, in supports
info = self.disco._wrap(ifrom, jid, info, True)
File "/home/alex/.local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/slixmpp/plugins/xep_0030/disco.py", line 780, in _wrap
iq.append(payload)
File "/home/alex/.local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/slixmpp/xmlstream/stanzabase.py", line 1170, in append
raise TypeError
TypeError
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
```
pep.
Alex, maybe move this to slixmpp@muc.poez.io :)
pep.
Also I don't get notified on "@pep."
Alex
I use Slack too often ☺️
Zash
😱️
pep.
Alex, fwiw, I also can't run memberbot, serialization fails I'm not entirely sure why..
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okay, good to know that its not related to my python skills only ;-)
pep.
Except it's not the same error
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Daniel, Conversations prefers Opus for audio calls, right?
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jonas’: yes
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thanks :)
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Neustradamus_
It is possible to update the memberbot logo? Always the old...
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:XMPP_logo.svg
Neustradamus_
About "? (yes / no)"
When we click on:
- yes, it is showed: yes
- no, it is showed: No
pep.
PR welcome
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moparisthebest
so python memberbot crashes a lot and can't be reliably ran across different machines, anxiously awaiting memberbot-rs pep. :)
pep.
:-°
pep.
I'm using it to work on xmpp-rs mostly
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eevvoor
Mentioning best prectices: Beagle IM does not want to use mentioning without @
https://github.com/tigase/beagle-im/issues/14✎
eevvoor
Mentioning best practices: Beagle IM does not want to use mentioning without @
https://github.com/tigase/beagle-im/issues/14 ✏
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> Neustradamus: We type the first letter (or two or more), after tab key, the first username is detected, tab again, the second...
> woj-tek: Great that it works in other applications. Though, it's never been specified so that's customary at best. Morover, it can lead to excessive notification when we namedrop someone without intention to rise attention.
Is there some standards / XEPs we could come up with?
pep.
Yeah that was mentioned in jdev yesterday, re mentions
eevvoor
ah ok
pep.
the issue here is that choosing a specific character is again mixing input format and wire format
pep.
There's conversejs using 0372 for this specific use-case. The user types @ and autocompletes a nick, and converse on the wire sends 0372. The receiving client then knows it's been mentioned. It doesn't have to parse "@" in the text, and it can also use another character if it wants (or no character)
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Where is that docunented? What could I cite here in the github issue pep.?
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I'm replying in the issue
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And Wojtek knows what I'm talking about I assume
pep.
"Current situation is is not ideal and it seems that the best way forward would be to implement XEP-0372: References: Mentions and while we consider it there is no ETA."
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(fwiw I'm not especially advertising for 372, I just care about the distinction between input and wire format :p)