XSF Discussion - 2020-05-21

0. Welcome

Hi!

!

Hey

I'm here, need to step afk for ~60s though to deliver a message

Hi

Seve?

Hello there!

> I'm here, need to step afk for ~60s though to deliver a message If only you had an extensible protocol to do that...

Any items not on trello?

not from me

None here

1. Minute taker

Not me.

Tired of doing it almost every week

Agenda item: can we replace this role with a bot?

Many other orgs that do online text meetings do

We have logs. What would the bot do?

https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot is commonly used, for examle

It's logs + some annotations, I guess (so it can record actions and decisions)

Has been done in the past, e.g. Kev had one IIRC

Yes

I think there have been a couple

It would be an improvement, I'm sure.

I'm not opposed.

In the mean while, we still need a minute taker for this meeting.

43% of the way through the meeting and we still don't have one

I'll volunteer if we can move on

Thanks MattJ

But I can't make promises about when they'll get sent out, if ever

Based on my track record :)

2. Hiring Communications Person

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My battery is about to die. Might drop out.

As mentioned last week, MattJ and I have met with a marketing person

What are the next steps?

She has provided a document for us to review. We've created a private channel to share it as it's labeled "confidential" :x

I invited board and commteam

I skimmed the document a bit. Need to look at it in more detail.

I have invited you I think, but I haven't heard back from you

k

Next step for this is read it, and meet. I think it's been agreed in the room monday 3PM UTC. Please talk if it's not possible for you :)

That should be fine.

Without getting ahead of ourselves, I think one of the questions we need to answer is: if this is the right approach for us, how long would we want to use their services.

Sure. I'm just waiting for the meeting to talk about it

ok

moving on then

Thanks for this, btw

3. iteam budget

MattJ, have you thought about this?

It's ongoing. Assuming that the status quo on spending is ok, then let's just remove this until we finalize a plan.

I think it is. Will archive the item

yep

On iteam:

the old server is back online, and I restarted xmpp.net there

But we have no plan to move services back that are already on the new machine

The new machine has backups (thanks Kev) so we're good

Any news on why it went offline?

cool

pep., no

so what is the old server doing besides xmpp.net?

At this point, nothing

Plans?

Not really, though I feel it might be a good home for xmpp.net and/or services like it that aren't mission-critical

xmpp.net was resource-heavy and affecting other services often

So it's nice to have it separate now

Not from iteam, but as long as there's no answer from the host I'd be wary of putting anything mission-critical there indeed

ok

4. AOB

None from me.

None here

One thing I noticed is that we missed deadlines for participating in Google's Season of Docs. I missed the announcements. Something to remember for next year.

There was an xsf calendar right?

Maybe put it there

There is one, yes

I haven't found next year's timeline, but might be good to put a reminder on it.

Nothing from me either

5. Date of Next

+1W

6. Close

Thanks all!

Thanks

Thanks

Thank you all!

Shame about Summer of Docs. I meant to track that one, but what with everything going on I';ve been a bit busy.

FWIW, I subscribed to https://twitter.com/googleoss now, which makes it (more) likely I see it for next time around.

Crazy times, not surprising it got missed.

Oh, absolutely. As I say, I had fully intended to push on that myself.

There are quite some mentoring organizations, but I haven't seen any mention of it in the past months.

None of the tweeps I follow has mentioned it, neither has hacker news.

I guess we're not the only ones with marketing issues :/

dwd, also https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/season-of-docs-announce

ralphm, ping

Still here

Not sure if you're getting 1:1 notifications?

I seem to have been highlighted, but I don't want to scroll back through 100 messages. If it was important, try again.

Hm, how hard would it be to extract how long a XEP has been deferred when it comes back to experimental?

Kev: Nothing important. You had a meeting bot once, IIRC, and there was mention of meeting bots.

Ah. Yes, I had a sleekbot for Council items. It was something like !addagenda, !startmeeting and !next, or thereabouts.

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0333.html#revision-history-v0.4 that's not over a year ago, was that too minor to bump out of Deferred?

Kev: any chance the code is somewhere public?

pep.: I would be amazed if I didn't publish it at the time. Whether I can now find it is another matter.

It wasn't sleekbot, it was Swiftob, by the look of it. https://github.com/swift/swiftob/blob/master/scripts/agenda.lua

lua!!

https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/reactions.html vs. XEP-0367?

Movim does 367, right?

Does it support removing reactions?

No, movim does xxxx-reactions I think. It's changed

And yes