XSF Discussion - 2020-05-21


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  221. ralphm bangs gavel
  222. ralphm 0. Welcome
  223. ralphm Hi!
  224. pep. !
  225. MattJ Hey
  226. MattJ I'm here, need to step afk for ~60s though to deliver a message
  227. Guus Hi
  228. ralphm Seve?
  229. Seve Hello there!
  230. Guus > I'm here, need to step afk for ~60s though to deliver a message If only you had an extensible protocol to do that...
  231. ralphm Any items not on trello?
  232. pep. not from me
  233. Guus None here
  234. ralphm 1. Minute taker
  235. pep. Not me.
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  237. pep. Tired of doing it almost every week
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  240. MattJ Agenda item: can we replace this role with a bot?
  241. MattJ Many other orgs that do online text meetings do
  242. ralphm We have logs. What would the bot do?
  243. MattJ https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot is commonly used, for examle
  244. MattJ It's logs + some annotations, I guess (so it can record actions and decisions)
  245. Zash Has been done in the past, e.g. Kev had one IIRC
  246. MattJ Yes
  247. MattJ I think there have been a couple
  248. Seve It would be an improvement, I'm sure.
  249. ralphm I'm not opposed.
  250. ralphm In the mean while, we still need a minute taker for this meeting.
  251. MattJ 43% of the way through the meeting and we still don't have one
  252. MattJ I'll volunteer if we can move on
  253. ralphm Thanks MattJ
  254. MattJ But I can't make promises about when they'll get sent out, if ever
  255. MattJ Based on my track record :)
  256. ralphm 2. Hiring Communications Person
  257. pep. !
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  260. Guus My battery is about to die. Might drop out.
  261. pep. As mentioned last week, MattJ and I have met with a marketing person
  262. ralphm What are the next steps?
  263. pep. She has provided a document for us to review. We've created a private channel to share it as it's labeled "confidential" :x
  264. pep. I invited board and commteam
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  266. ralphm I skimmed the document a bit. Need to look at it in more detail.
  267. pep. I have invited you I think, but I haven't heard back from you
  268. pep. k
  269. pep. Next step for this is read it, and meet. I think it's been agreed in the room monday 3PM UTC. Please talk if it's not possible for you :)
  270. ralphm That should be fine.
  271. ralphm Without getting ahead of ourselves, I think one of the questions we need to answer is: if this is the right approach for us, how long would we want to use their services.
  272. pep. Sure. I'm just waiting for the meeting to talk about it
  273. ralphm ok
  274. ralphm moving on then
  275. ralphm Thanks for this, btw
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  277. ralphm 3. iteam budget
  278. ralphm MattJ, have you thought about this?
  279. MattJ It's ongoing. Assuming that the status quo on spending is ok, then let's just remove this until we finalize a plan.
  280. ralphm I think it is. Will archive the item
  281. pep. yep
  282. MattJ On iteam:
  283. MattJ the old server is back online, and I restarted xmpp.net there
  284. MattJ But we have no plan to move services back that are already on the new machine
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  289. MattJ The new machine has backups (thanks Kev) so we're good
  290. pep. Any news on why it went offline?
  291. ralphm cool
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  293. MattJ pep., no
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  295. ralphm so what is the old server doing besides xmpp.net?
  296. MattJ At this point, nothing
  297. ralphm Plans?
  298. MattJ Not really, though I feel it might be a good home for xmpp.net and/or services like it that aren't mission-critical
  299. MattJ xmpp.net was resource-heavy and affecting other services often
  300. MattJ So it's nice to have it separate now
  301. pep. Not from iteam, but as long as there's no answer from the host I'd be wary of putting anything mission-critical there indeed
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  304. ralphm ok
  305. ralphm 4. AOB
  306. Seve None from me.
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  309. MattJ None here
  310. ralphm One thing I noticed is that we missed deadlines for participating in Google's Season of Docs. I missed the announcements. Something to remember for next year.
  311. pep. There was an xsf calendar right?
  312. pep. Maybe put it there
  313. ralphm There is one, yes
  314. ralphm I haven't found next year's timeline, but might be good to put a reminder on it.
  315. pep. Nothing from me either
  316. ralphm 5. Date of Next
  317. ralphm +1W
  318. ralphm 6. Close
  319. ralphm Thanks all!
  320. ralphm bangs gavel
  321. pep. Thanks
  322. MattJ Thanks
  323. Seve Thank you all!
  324. dwd Shame about Summer of Docs. I meant to track that one, but what with everything going on I';ve been a bit busy.
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  326. ralphm FWIW, I subscribed to https://twitter.com/googleoss now, which makes it (more) likely I see it for next time around.
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  328. ralphm Crazy times, not surprising it got missed.
  329. dwd Oh, absolutely. As I say, I had fully intended to push on that myself.
  330. ralphm There are quite some mentoring organizations, but I haven't seen any mention of it in the past months.
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  332. ralphm None of the tweeps I follow has mentioned it, neither has hacker news.
  333. ralphm I guess we're not the only ones with marketing issues :/
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  336. ralphm dwd, also https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/season-of-docs-announce
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  340. MattJ ralphm, ping
  341. ralphm Still here
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  343. MattJ Not sure if you're getting 1:1 notifications?
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  349. Kev I seem to have been highlighted, but I don't want to scroll back through 100 messages. If it was important, try again.
  350. Zash Hm, how hard would it be to extract how long a XEP has been deferred when it comes back to experimental?
  351. Zash Kev: Nothing important. You had a meeting bot once, IIRC, and there was mention of meeting bots.
  352. Kev Ah. Yes, I had a sleekbot for Council items. It was something like !addagenda, !startmeeting and !next, or thereabouts.
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  357. Zash https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0333.html#revision-history-v0.4 that's not over a year ago, was that too minor to bump out of Deferred?
  358. pep. Kev: any chance the code is somewhere public?
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  360. Kev pep.: I would be amazed if I didn't publish it at the time. Whether I can now find it is another matter.
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  362. Kev It wasn't sleekbot, it was Swiftob, by the look of it. https://github.com/swift/swiftob/blob/master/scripts/agenda.lua
  363. pep. lua!!
  364. pep. drops the script on the floor
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  382. MattJ https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/reactions.html vs. XEP-0367?
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  384. MattJ Movim does 367, right?
  385. MattJ Does it support removing reactions?
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  388. pep. No, movim does xxxx-reactions I think. It's changed
  389. pep. And yes
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