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Neustradamus_
https://matrix.org/blog/2020/05/21/welcoming-automattic-to-matrix/ :/
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vanitasvitae
Is it possible to block individual users in a MUC room?
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vanitasvitae
I did a quick search but didn't find anything.
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Daniel
you can add them to your block list
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Daniel
with the full jid
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vanitasvitae
It should be impossible in anonymous rooms, but maybe it works in non-anonymous rooms?
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Daniel
but then they just add _ to their nick :-/
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Zash
The full MUC + nickname JID
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vanitasvitae
okay, thanks 🙂
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Zash
Anyone wanna work on a MUC (or MIX) blocking thing?
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vanitasvitae
Guess that would be a nice feature to have
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MattJ
XEP-0191 on the room JID?
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Zash
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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Daniel
and you feed that with real jids?
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Zash
MUC JIDs. The MUC knows the real JIDs and can do magic.
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jonas’
occupant-id
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Zash
jonas’, block by occupant-id? clientside?
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jonas’
no, use the occupant-id instead of the MUC JID as identifier to pass to '191✎ -
jonas’
no, use the occupant-id instead of the MUC JID as identifier to pass to the MUC for blocking ✏
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Zash
But 191 takes JID
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jonas’
then maybe not '191 :)
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Zash
`<{urn:xmpp:blocking}block><{urn:xmpp:new-thing}occupant id=...>` ?
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Zash
Suppose you could have @id, @nick, @jid depending on what you have accessible.
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Zash
If you have occupant-id then client-side or account-side tracking could work too. Without, while online+joined, rename tracking could work.
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Zash
Telling the MUC lets you do things like vote-kick, which might be nice.
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jonas’
for any interested parties, there is currently a chat about '393 going on in xmpp:council@muc.xmpp.org?join
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Zash
Maybe we should move it here instead?
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jonas’
maybe
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Neustradamus_
It is possible to add Issues section for https://github.com/xsf/memberbot?
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Neustradamus_
Thanks in advance
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emus
Zash: I wonder if people should be motivated to mention others full IDs in public chats
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emus
at least that should be parsed to a nick only
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pep.
emus, sure, that's a client thing to do. Users don't have to see that
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emus
yes, just saying
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lovetox
blocking in MUC should not be called blocking
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lovetox
it should be called, ignoring
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lovetox
because you cant prevent that someone joins the room with "blocking"
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lovetox
and you always cant prevent that he sees and reads your messages
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lovetox
all you do is ignore the contact
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pep.
blocking/ignoring in a room is always messy (and will always be) anyway since you're losing context to other people's messaging. But I'm not sure there is much to do about this
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Zash
Ignoring or blocking, in the MUC or elsewhere, it would be good if it worked with all your clients and couldn't so easily be circumvented by changing nickname or rejoining.
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pep.
occupant-id / realjid. I don't think there's much more to it. Possibly handled directly by the muc
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pep.
but not necessarily