XSF Discussion - 2020-05-27


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  5. Neustradamus_ https://matrix.org/blog/2020/05/21/welcoming-automattic-to-matrix/ :/
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  129. vanitasvitae Is it possible to block individual users in a MUC room?
  130. vanitasvitae I did a quick search but didn't find anything.
  131. Daniel you can add them to your block list
  132. Daniel with the full jid
  133. vanitasvitae It should be impossible in anonymous rooms, but maybe it works in non-anonymous rooms?
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  135. Daniel but then they just add _ to their nick :-/
  136. Zash The full MUC + nickname JID
  137. vanitasvitae okay, thanks 🙂
  138. Zash Anyone wanna work on a MUC (or MIX) blocking thing?
  139. vanitasvitae Guess that would be a nice feature to have
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  164. MattJ XEP-0191 on the room JID?
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  167. Zash Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
  168. Daniel and you feed that with real jids?
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  170. Zash MUC JIDs. The MUC knows the real JIDs and can do magic.
  171. jonas’ occupant-id
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  173. Zash jonas’, block by occupant-id? clientside?
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  175. jonas’ no, use the occupant-id instead of the MUC JID as identifier to pass to '191
  176. jonas’ no, use the occupant-id instead of the MUC JID as identifier to pass to the MUC for blocking
  177. Zash But 191 takes JID
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  179. jonas’ then maybe not '191 :)
  180. Zash `<{urn:xmpp:blocking}block><{urn:xmpp:new-thing}occupant id=...>` ?
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  182. Zash Suppose you could have @id, @nick, @jid depending on what you have accessible.
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  185. Zash If you have occupant-id then client-side or account-side tracking could work too. Without, while online+joined, rename tracking could work.
  186. Zash Telling the MUC lets you do things like vote-kick, which might be nice.
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  361. jonas’ for any interested parties, there is currently a chat about '393 going on in xmpp:council@muc.xmpp.org?join
  362. Zash Maybe we should move it here instead?
  363. jonas’ maybe
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  385. Neustradamus_ It is possible to add Issues section for https://github.com/xsf/memberbot?
  386. Neustradamus_ Thanks in advance
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  433. emus Zash: I wonder if people should be motivated to mention others full IDs in public chats
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  435. emus at least that should be parsed to a nick only
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  449. pep. emus, sure, that's a client thing to do. Users don't have to see that
  450. emus yes, just saying
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  458. lovetox blocking in MUC should not be called blocking
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  461. lovetox it should be called, ignoring
  462. lovetox because you cant prevent that someone joins the room with "blocking"
  463. lovetox and you always cant prevent that he sees and reads your messages
  464. lovetox all you do is ignore the contact
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  468. pep. blocking/ignoring in a room is always messy (and will always be) anyway since you're losing context to other people's messaging. But I'm not sure there is much to do about this
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  497. Zash Ignoring or blocking, in the MUC or elsewhere, it would be good if it worked with all your clients and couldn't so easily be circumvented by changing nickname or rejoining.
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  505. pep. occupant-id / realjid. I don't think there's much more to it. Possibly handled directly by the muc
  506. pep. but not necessarily
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