XSF Discussion - 2020-06-15

who's using matrix?

Oh you probably mean for internal chat and not as a solution / protocol

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-asap/ this sure sounds a lot like problems xmpp solved :)

it’s probably not the XSF’s place to finance that, but we could use a community manager dealing with new IM users.

Wasn't jabber@conference.jabber.org once a place for new users?

I'm going to work a little bit more on https://xmpp-messenger.de This could be a place for German Community. I'm still in the learning phase,.. but should be ok provided the basics.

a website isn’t going to work

It's also a mailinglist, email, account on mastodon and movim.

I’m more thinking of a MUC

new users are constantly dropping in here, jdev or xmpp@

neither is the right place for them

But why?

What search terms bring them here/there?

Aren't 80% of those 'new users' criminals?

Why should we put any effort into providing them a support channel

Zash, I suspect some of them just click one random xmppy-sounding room on s.j.n or the respective client interface

Daniel, not all of them, the ones in xmpp@ seem decent enough right now. clueless, but ok

at least no obvious criminal

jonas’: I was wondering if it's rather something generic like "discuss" or "chat"

Daniel, maybe to tag them and ban them from a single place?

Maybe we shouldn't be speculating on whether peolpe are criminals

that, too