XSF Discussion - 2020-06-22


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  121. Neustradamus https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0390.html date problem no?
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  155. jonas’ Neustradamus, depends if you want to go by the date of the development of the change or by the date of the merge of the change
  156. jonas’ if the authors provide a revision block, we generally use the former
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  164. Neustradamus https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0390.html Version 0.3.2 (2018-03-05) Explain that ASCII Seperators are only invalid in XML 1.0, but not in XML 1.1. fs Version 0.3.1 (2020-04-28) Add another xml:lang example fs Version 0.3.0 (2018-10-01) Defer due to lack of activity. XEP Editor (jsc)
  165. Neustradamus Marty McFly is here maybe
  166. jonas’ read what I just said
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  168. Neustradamus Yes there is a problem
  169. jonas’ no
  170. jonas’ It looks like a problem to you, but I don’t consider it a problem
  171. Neustradamus It is published date
  172. jonas’ is it?
  173. jonas’ where is that written?
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  175. Neustradamus The date of publication and announcement of the update
  176. jonas’ I do not have that at hand, can you show me where it specifically says that this is a date of publication?
  177. Neustradamus From Standards ML: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2020-June/ Version 0.3.1 of XEP-0390 (Entity Capabilities 2.0) has been released. Sun Jun 14 13:05:09 UTC 2020 And 0.3.2 yet
  178. Neustradamus From Standards ML: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2020-June/ Version 0.3.1 of XEP-0390 (Entity Capabilities 2.0) has been released. Sun Jun 14 13:05:09 UTC 2020 And no 0.3.2 yet
  179. jonas’ we do not send emails for 0.x.y changes anymore
  180. jonas’ only for 0.x changes
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  182. jonas’ reduces noise, since 0.x.y are editorial only
  183. Neustradamus I think that a lot of people can see the problems: no emails, and date problems.
  184. Neustradamus Hope some changes soon
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  186. Neustradamus If there is a problem about XEP update announcements on Standards ML -> time to create a new list on XMPP.org: xeps@lists.xmpp.org (for example). Do not forget: time to move all jabber.org lists to xmpp.org. Recall, it is XMPP since 2004 and the XMPP Standards Foundation since 2007.
  187. MattJ I had no idea
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  190. jonas’ about the name chaneg?
  191. jonas’ about the name change?
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  198. MattJ :)
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  236. Guus Changing the address of the mailing list for no reason other than referring to 'xmpp' rather than 'jabber' will probably introduce more problems than that it solves. I'd advice against that. If we're going to spin off a new list from 'standards' then we might, but isn't the proposed 'xeps' a pretty much identical (yet potentially more verbose) equivalent?
  237. Guus Subscribing to the source repository might provide people that are interested in the higher verbosity a suitable alternative.
  238. jonas’ I actually thought about something like xep-announce@, which would be a read-only fanout of fully verbose XEP announcements, no discussion
  239. jonas’ but then I came to the same conclusion as you, Guus :)
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  241. Guus No hill for me to die on.
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  243. Guus I'd not like a rename of the list though.
  244. jonas’ of course not
  245. jonas’ nobody d oes
  246. jonas’ nobody does
  247. jonas’ and I don’t suppose it’ll happen, at least not from my side with my iteam hat on
  248. jonas’ compared to that, moving from github to gitlab is a walk in a park
  249. jonas’ or a piece of cakhe
  250. jonas’ or a piece of cake
  251. Guus Remember that the cake is a lie.
  252. jonas’ it isn’t always!
  253. Guus Famous last words.
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  255. jonas’ you know it isn’t!
  256. jonas’ or at least that I can produe rather photorealistic renderings of cake
  257. Guus If memory recalls that was a browney!
  258. Guus brownie?
  259. jonas’ no
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