XSF Discussion - 2020-07-05


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  12. Zash LNJ: Maybe check or ask what existing implementations do, if that part is implemented anywhere.
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  713. MattJ Just a heads-up that there may be some temporary unavailability of the mailing lists tomorrow (6 July) between 13:00-15:00 UTC. Jonathan will be upgrading the OS on that host. Best case, nobody notices :)
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  715. pep. "email is reliable anyway"!!
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  789. strypey jonas’: > I love it when people equate OMEMO and Jabber. The UX of OMEMO is part of the UX of jabber as a chat network.
  790. pep. no it isn't
  791. pep. it's part of the UX of set of clients that implement OMEMO at most
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  794. strypey !XSF_Martin: > strypey: If you want to be able to decrypt your messages later on a new device you should use an e2ee without forward secrecy, If I can decrypt a message more than once using the same account on the same app/ device, it's only reasonable to expect that either a) I will be able to decrypt past messages by logging into the same account on a new app/ device, OR b) the encrypted history will not be loaded into the new app. Having message history that I can't decrypt appear in the new app is a UX fail on both counts.
  795. pep. But I'd say really "the UX of OMEMO" is part of the set of clients that want to have a similar UX. And different set of UX guidelines may have different incompatible UX for OMEMO, which is fine if their goal is not to interoperate.
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